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Hi there! Welcome to ELECTRIC DREAMS - DREAMS SECTION for Vol. 5 Number 7 - August 1998.
Hi there dreamers! I missed you. This month brings us back after a dream drought, er... time displacement, er... unanticipated vacation from the dreams section. The *lost dreams* of May ED 5.5 and June ED 5.6 will appear soon. Ever go through dream droughts, periods when you don't have any dream recall even if you want to? A request asks for assistance. Heratheta shares some observations from his recent trip to the city by the bay, San Francisco, which somehow leads to an exchange on mushrooms. Dreams are like that, jumping from one subject to another in a seemingly random illogical way, but there is a bridge there somewhere. In fact, in San Francisco it's the Golden Gate Bridge;)!
We resume our tour through the land of dreams with some excellent examples. Two of our long time dreamer novelist accomplished writers contribute to this edition: stan kulikowski ii again draws us into his complex feeling and image filled relationship world, while Nutcracker reappears after a long absence to share a snapshot of todays media spliced with sharp details and feelings.
In this issue we also see Tornado's return in a cluster, the meaning of a blank book is examined, a woman rises above herself, an attack by Freddy Kruger takes on an unexpected twist, Chuck Norris and Bruce Willis visit our pages, an animal morphs before our eyes, we visit the Temple of The Golden Dawn - sort of-, we join in a Hospital adventure and other trips into the world of dreams.
Enjoy your visit to the pages of Electric Dreams.
NEW CATEGORIES:
STRANGERS [Who and what we don't know yet]
VACATION TIME Summertime is traditionally linked with vacations. It is a time to take some time off, to rest, relax, set aside the concerns of our daily life and do some exploring of the unknown or the traditional. It is a time to refresh your perspectives and renew your commitment to those things you want to be involved with. If you are taking a vacation soon, enjoy it. One of the theories of dreams is that they are akin to vacations of the conscious mind. What do you think? Learn some more basic ideas about dreams in a current series being run on www.msnbc.com at:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/178718.asp
THANKS
As usual thanks to all the dreamers and dream commentators for sharing a little bit of their internal reality with a larger community.
FEEDBACK FROM THE DREAMERS INDEX
Question: Remembering Dreams
Commentary by Heratheta@aol.com on Novato Center For Dreams
Commentary by Richard on Novato Dream Library and Archive
Heratheta on a dreamers look at san francisco
From MGM on Graffitti and Mushrooms
From Richard on fertility and mushroom cults
From Heratheta on John Allegro and Graffitti--
COMMENTARY ON DREAMS FROM PREVIOUS ISSUES INDEX
NEW DREAMS:
PRECOGNITIVE/FUTURE DREAMS [Stories from past experiences, or send them in before it happens, if you can]
REPETITIVE DREAMS [Significant by nature]
DREAM TRACES IN WAKING LIFE [The effects of external stimuli on our dreams or is it the other way around - our dreams leaving a trace on our physical reality?]
DEFYING CLASSIFICATION [Your stumpers may not be so mysterious to others]
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
LINKS TO STAGES OF LIFE
BIRTH [Starts] CHILDHOOD [Early development]
ADOLESCENCE [Maturing, testing]
ADULTHOOD [The main event for most]
OLD AGE [Wisdom, Approaching the Journeys end]
DEATH [Endings]
COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD [Beyond our terrestrial limits]
AGGRESSION [By us or against us- crossing others paths]
ALIENS [Visitors or visited - creatures from other dimensions]
AMUSEMENT PARK [A place to relax and enjoy, another reality]
ANGELS [Visitors from Spiritual dimensions]
ANIMALS [Basic Instincts- This month brings us Owls, a morphing Deer, and a snakewoman]
Dream: Owls in my dream by Sonja (980622) **
Commentary by kris on Owls in my dream by Sonja (980623)
Dream: Animal Morphing by Nutcracker (980723) **
BATHROOMS [Maintenance, Cleansing and Elimination]
BELONGING [What we are associated with or wish we were]
BOOKS (Extensions of our memory and imagination, our permanent records)
** Dream: Protecting my Book by Cunyat (980710) **
BRIDGES [How we get across an obstacle or go from here to there]
CELEBRITIES [The well known - famous and infamous]
** Dream: My Dream of Chuck Norris by ? (980704) **
CLOTHING [What we wear tells us about ourselves and the events we participate in]
COMEDY [With an accent on puns, funny situations or jokes]
COMMUNICATIONS [From telepathic to devices to signs & symbols]
COMPUTERS [Extensions of our minds, mind tools, communication]
CULTS [Somewhere out there ...]
DIRECTIONS [Ever stop and ask for directions? North, South, East, West, up, down, ahead, behind, straight, turn, right, left, make a circle, cross, go through, open, close, mix, add, boil, cook, simmer, but most of all - follow these instructions carefully...and don't be shy about asking someone else down the path, except, of course, for the Big Bad Wolf!!!]
== Commentary by Heratheta on Various dreams ==
nurse dream snowman dream owl dream dream bust car dream dark river dream chuck norris elm st.dream protecting book dream eyes of someone else dream flagpole dream tornado dream building dream
DISCOVERY [New insights and unexpected developments]
DREAMING [Dreams about dreaming]
DRUGS [Healing or Hurting?]
EATING [Getting nourishment for maintenance, growth and pleasure]
ELEVATORS [Going UP or DOWN - Push the right button or else...]
ESCAPE [Get me outta here!!!]
** Dream: the dark river by (9807057) **
EYES [The organs of sight...the window to the soul...]
FEAR [What scares us]
** Dream: The Snakewoman by MGM (980626) **
**
Dream: FREDDY by Fiona (980708)**
FOOD [The source of our physical nourishment]
FIRE [Flames bring light, heat and destruction/transformation]
FLYING [Confidence, Power, Freedom & Perspective]
GIFTS [Offerings to or from others]
HOBBIES [Our interests and desires]- COLLECTING THINGS
HOLIDAYS [Time off to ...]
HOSPITAL [A place for treatment, healing and repair]
** Dream: Medical nurse at Hospital admission by MB (980622)**
HOUSE [Where our lives take place]
** Dream: Group Home by dreambat (980712) **
HOTELS [Temporary Dwelling or Special Event location]
JOURNEYS [Missions away from our home base -explorations]
** Dream: Blue Moon by ? (9604XX) ** ==
Commentary by MGM on 'Blue Moon' (980713)
== **
Dream: cross country ski
party by stan kulikowski ii(980718)** ==
Commentary by Heratheta on
Cross Country Skiing (980719) ==
LOST [Disorientation or abandonment]
LOTTERY DREAMS [Sudden Wealth - Randomness favors the dreamer]
LOVE [All around us, yet so hard to find and keep]
LUCID DREAMING [Knowing you are Dreaming when you are Dreaming]
MEMORY [Remembering ...In dreams we often struggle with the issue of memories and remembering a dream which by definition involves the process of recollection.]
MIRRORS [Reflection of Self]
(SEE The Dark River under ESCAPE for several mirror images)
MUSIC [Melodies of the land within]
NUDITY [What you see is what you get]
PERFORMERS [Entertainers]
PROBLEMS [Situations or difficulties sometimes present choices]
POLITICAL SCENE [Public issues through positions of power]
RELATIONSHIPS [Other parts of ourselves including family which constitutes the first and earliest of our relationships, often influencing how we relate to the outside world]
RELIGIOUS RELATED [The Ritual and the Spiritual]
Dream: Crowley Dream by lp (980702) **
ROMANCE [Thrills and Chills, lost in another]
SCHOOL THEMES [Learning and learning related trials]
SOLUTIONS [The answers to problems or quandaries]
STAIRS [Bridges between levels, between the upper and the lower]
STRANGERS [Who and what we don't know yet]
Dream: snowman by ? (980601)**
TEETH [Ok, losing teeth is one of the top ten dreams people have questions on. Theories on what they mean range all over the spectrum of possibilities.]
TORNADOS [Pretty well defined destructive power of nature]
Dream: Tornado man by ? (980625) ** ==
Commentary by Heratheta on Tornado Man (980626)
== **
Dream: "Top of the
Hill" by dreambat (980628) ** **
Dream: Tornado Dreams by Bluemoon(980720)
**
TRAPPED [Temporarily helpless- Sometimes we are paralyzed or imprisoned by jobs, relationships or expectations]
VEHICLES [Means of transportation, reflection of lifestyle]
Dream: Airplane by Joe (980720) **
WATER [A magical earthly fluid, nourishment, cleansing]
WORKPLACE [Where we make a living]
WRITING & WRITERS [Communication and creativity]
DREAM SERIES
(None this month)
Hasta La Vista!
-- Question: Remembering Dreams --
From: Sue Buckley (sbuckley@airmail.net )
Is there a process or technique that can help you recall your dreams? My friend Ken used to be able to recall most every dream and now he cannot. He has made many dramatic changes in his life - a divorce - started to listen to new music - began playing the harmonica - fell in love again.
I look forward to your comments. Thank you. Sue
[BK- Sue: The best place in the world today to find anything related to dreams is on the internet at the Dream Resources section of www.dreamgate.com. You will not only find tips on recalling dreams, but some link to any dream related topic you can think of! Check these links out:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm
-- Commentary by Heratheta@aol.com on Novato Center For Dreams --
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:40:12 EDT
may I also not forget to mention the hospitality while I visited the bay area of the novato center for dreams. it is an astounding library of dream books and videos. those of you who had read the EASY DREAMS text recently in ELECTRIC DREAMS can also see the video at the NOVATO CENTER FOR DREAMS in novato california just a short drive north of the golden gate bridge. I was particularly interested in a dream book in the novato center library which was in russian, a language I am studying. and, speaking of russian dreams I have yet to find a russian dreamer who considers his or her dream a reality, granted a different reality, thinner I like to say, but real enough. I believe it can be the result of the communist oppression over the last 8 decades forbidding anything but the state's unconscious manifesto of nightmares. speaking again about the video of easy dreams, it is a 40minute discussion of the techniques detailed in the text recently published by electric dreams and although it is not easy to send gratis I have as in the case of novato dream center and others who have contact with an audience I have not yet reached mailed it so. contact me at heratheta@aol.com or on the ed-core page if you have such an audience and I will consider sending you the video free of charge. you know, richard w and I were talking at the fine arts lagoon about how the new digital cameras will turn the tide of cyberspace and make it more human again so it is in that spirit that I have made the above gesture before and now on this bastille day a day to remember which eased for a while oppression. vive la france, vive la liberte de l'esprite.
-- Commentary by Richard on Novato Dream Library and Archive -- Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:41:38 -0700
Hi heratheta,
I'm glad to hear you made it to the Library. Sorry Jill couldn't be there. I enjoyed our time together in SF, sorry it was so foggy - this week we are having a heat wave!
I'm sending this note out via ed-core rather than directly to you as I do want people to know about the library and archive. Jill Gregory has provided a ideal place for dreamers to archive their work with dreams, not only books and tapes, but dream inspired art and other artifacts as well. No personal journals at this time. You can get more info at: http://members.aol.com/dreammzzz/index.htm
It is quite amazing what she has collected over the years. I find the books far more extensive than my other two favorite dream book collections, the Berkeley Graduate Psych Library and the SF State Main Library - both of which are excellent. The Berkeley library has more journal articles available, but SFSU is better with books by dream interested folks. The Novato library has a vast collection and fills out some areas not found the University libraries, like Children's books on dreams, European books on dreams, and popular culture books. Jill also has collections of out of print journals such as the Sundance Journal and Lucidity Letter journals.
If you know where to get copies of either the GATES project newsletters/journal or the DreamWorks Journal, please contact me. Both of these are needed. (Dreamworks is at SFSU). Finally, if you need articles from the ASD journal Dreaming, drop me a line - tell me what city you are in and I'll tell you where the nearest library is that contains the material.
-Richard
--Heratheta on a dreamers look at san francisco--
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:57:55 EDT
I would like to mention a graffiti about dreams I saw in san francisco on polk st. between northpoint and bay probably at the corner of northpoint and polk but it maybe polk and bay on the west side of polk . I noticed it driving toward fishermans wharf having had a delightful chat with richard wilkerson at the palace of fine arts lagoon. the graffiti is there for those in the bay area to see and it was quite spectacular for me as there are very few of us with that grafitti's message. it warmed my heart that cold afternoon. that siting made my trip to san francisco. by the way richard, the book I mentioned on linguistics is THE SACRED CROSS AND THE MUSHROOM by JOHN ALLEGRO.
--From MGM on Graffitti and Mushrooms--
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:16:32 -0400
If you wouldn't mind, please relate to us what the graffito said.
Meanwhile, I am going to post a letter I wrote to The Straight Dope, a column by Cecil Adam, which appears in the Chicago Reader, AOL and in various newspapers. Mr. Adams attempts to answer questions of about urban legends and anything else that strikes his fancy. He hasn't answered my letter yet. The letter I wrote was about the book Heratheta mentions above.
Dear Mr. Adams,
I read "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, A study of the nature and origins of Christianity within the fertility cults of the ancient Near East," by John M. Allegro, a philologist. The book was published by Doubleday & Company Inc. in 1970. Allegro says the Indo-European and Semitic language families are both derived from the ancient tongue of Sumeria, long extinct. (Encarta contradicts Allegro, saying, "Its vocabulary, grammar, and syntax do not appear to be related to those of any other known language.")
Allegro says religions in the ancient Near East, including the Greeks', Hebrews' and Christians', were based on worship of a fertility god whose sperm was the rain that fell on the earth and the fields, which were furrowed into a vulva. Their union produced crops. "Chrisitian" means "smeared with semen" and refers to their practice of smearing themselves with "aromatic gums and spices of the traditional Israelite anointing oil: myrrh, aromatic cane, cinnamon, and cassia, all representing the powerful semen of the god." There was another ingredient in the anointing oil: magic mushrooms (Amanita muscaria), which were "the pure unadulterated semen of the god" and the "son of God", and which when eaten, bestowed divine knowledge on the priest or adherent. The Old and New Testaments, written in code to conceal the true fertility/mushroom cult from outsiders and the authorities, are, according to Allegro, filled with puns that allude to the holy mushroom.
Here are a couple of passages from "The sacred Mushroom and the Cross":
"The use of the name Jesus (Greek iesus) as an invocation for healing was appropriate enough. Its Hebrew original, yehoshua, Joshua, comes from Sumerian IA-U-ShU-A (ShUSh), 'semen, which saves, restores, heals'. Hellenized Jews used for 'Joshua' the Greek name Iason, Jason, very properly, since iason, 'healer', and the deponent verb iaomai, 'heal', come from the same Sumerian source. In the New Testament taunt, 'Physician, heal thyself' (Luke 4:23), we probably have a direct allusion to this meaning, as we certainly have in Jesus' title 'Saviour', Greek soter, the first element of which reflects the same Sumerian word ShU, 'save', and so is rightly used in Greek for saving from disease, harm, peril, etc., and is a common epithet of Zeus and kings.
"The fertility God Dionysys (Greek dionusos), whose cult emblem was the erect phallus, was also a god of healing, and his name, when broken down to its original parts, IA-U-NU-ShUSh, is almost idential to that of Jesus, having NU, 'seed', only in addition; 'Semen, seed that saves', and is comparable with the Greek Nosios, 'Healer', an epithet of Zeus.
And this:
"If we are to make any enlightened guess at 'primitive' man's ideas about god and the universe it would have to be on the reasonable assumption that they would be simple, and directly related to the world of his experience. He may have given the god numerous epithets describing his various functions and manifestations but there is no reason to doubt that the reality behind the names was envisaged as one, all-powerful deity, a life-giver, supreme creator. The etymological examination of the chief god names that is now possible supports this view, pointing to a common theme of life-giving fecundity. Thus the principal gods of the Greeks and Hebrews, Zeus, and Yahweh (Jehova), have names derived from Sumerian meaning 'juice of fecundity', spermatazoa, 'seed of life'. The phrase is composed of two syllables, IA (ya, dialectically za), 'juice', literally 'strong water', and U, perhaps the most important phoneme in the whole of Near Eastern religion. It is found in the texts represented by a number of different cuneiform signs, but at the root of them all is the idea of 'fertility'. Thus one U means 'copulate' or 'mount', and 'create'; another 'rainstorm', as source of the heavenly sperm; another 'vegetation', as the offspring of the god; whilst U is the name of the storm-god himself. So, far from evincing a multiplicity of gods and conflicting theological notions, our earliest records lead us back to a single idea, even a single letter, 'U'. Behind Judaism and Christianity, and indeed all the Near Eastern fertility religions and their more sophisticated developments, there lies this single phoneme U'.''
And one more:
"The idea of the creative Word of God came to have a profound philosophical and religious importance and was, and still is, the sujbect of much metaphysical debate. But originally it was not an abstract notion; you could see the "Word of God", feel it as rain on your face, see it seeping into the furrows of mother earth, the "labia" of the womb of creation. Within burns an eternal fire ..."
My questions for you are these: Did Allegro originate these theories, and have they been accepted by other philologists and scholars? Is he a reputable scholar? Does anyone else believe that the Indo-European and Semitic languages and religions are indeed fertility and mushroom cults derived from ancient Sumerian language and culture?
I noted in front of the book that he also wrote "Dead Sea Scrolls" (Pelican A376), "People of the Dead Sea Scrolls" (Doubleday, N.Y.) and other books.
I look forward to reading your answer. Thanks.
--From Richard on fertility and mushroom cults --
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:29:00 -0700
*Does anyone else believe that the Indo-European and Semitic languages and religions are indeed fertility and mushroom cults derived from ancient Sumerian language and culture?* That they were ~the~ singular influence seems to be an inflated position that pushes aside all other views and influences. For scholarly purposes of exposition, (or exhibition) this is sometimes necessary, but never ~true~ in the sense we ususually use the word.
But I'm speaking here without having read the book. A few general history observations:
Clearly Sumarian language and culture had a deep impact on the Levant, on Egypt, Turkey/Anatolia and further. Trade records with Indus River valley cultures have been found. When the Hebrews were in Babylon, a Sumerian hand-me-down city, and decided to switch from oral to written records, the sumerian (then assysian) language was surely going to impact the writing.
Clearly a whole host of ecstatic mystery cults deeply impacted the area as well. Mushrooms would certainly play a part in any cult that experiments with local hallucinagens. The Greeks sure had enough left-over mushroom sculptures to verify the lasting tradition.
-Richard
--From Heratheta on John Allegro and Graffitti--
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:28:35 EDT
thanks Mark for your interesting comments and questions. personally I believe the knowledge of john allegro is older than he was and therefore that he tapped into a remarkable vein. i'll always be greatful for his courage to write the book which was later purged from bookstores with an intolerance like the inquisition. he later wrote of the fury and the oppression quite understandably as you might expect from such a world class scholar. but, then copernicus, pasteur, & galeleo, were all treated poorly by the politicians, eccleasiastical,academic, and state who used the hallucinations of the religions to form governing bodies serving their need to express themselves over others. as to how such an idea could be suppressed though not extinguished, how long did the tobacco industry keep the warning labels of cigarette packs? but the graffiti, oh yes, I remember it was in bubbles, blue red, and especailly the last line of what i'm trying to have enlarged from a foto I took of it remains cleaar to me "I do not want to be my dream" . when I enlarge the foto I shall print it out here tomorrow, godhallucinationmushroomdoubtthickthinreality willing.
To mm and those interested the full grafitti dream text at the southwest corner of northpoint and polk in sanfrancisco reads: my desire is to dream my wish is to wake up and my hope is to not be a dream
there are other grafitti by this same person also in sanfrancisco east of this above one and I have meant to call the person,for at the bottom of the text above is a telephone number and a ? what do you think? I shall take a closer look with a microscope at the picture I have but I don't see how I will be able to make it out. there is a 415 area code I see before it and perhaps a sanfrancisco resident if they should ever pass this corner and see the grafitti will pass the number along. the other grafitti also are conscerning dreams and it might be nice to contact the grafittist with all the sanfrancisco dream activity going on. well on to the microscope until then. I do remember there were some spanish names following the telephone number so more than one person is involved.
COMMENTARY ON DREAMS FROM PREVIOUS ISSUES
NEW DREAMS:
PRECOGNITIVE/FUTURE DREAMS [Stories from past experiences, or send them in before it happens, if you can]
REPETITIVE DREAMS [Significant by nature]
DREAM TRACES IN WAKING LIFE [The effects of external stimuli on our dreams or is it the other way around - our dreams leaving a trace on our physical reality?]
DEFYING CLASSIFICATION [Your stumpers may not be so mysterious to others]
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
LINKS TO STAGES OF LIFE
BIRTH [Starts]
CHILDHOOD [Early development]
ADOLESCENCE [Maturing, testing]
ADULTHOOD [The main event for most]
OLD AGE [Wisdom, Approaching the Journeys end]
DEATH [Endings]
COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD [Beyond our terrestrial limits]
AGGRESSION [By us or against us- crossing others paths]
ALIENS [Visitors or visited - creatures from other dimensions]
AMUSEMENT PARK [A place to relax and enjoy, another reality]
ANGELS [Visitors from Spiritual dimensions]
ANIMALS [Basic Instincts- This month brings us Owls, Deer, ..]
** Dream: Owls in my dream by Sonja (980622) **
Hi there
Normally when I dream it does not bother me, but the day when I dream about something and it bothers me, then I know that something is going to happen.
I've dreamt last night about owls and it is bothering me a lot and I would like to know what the meaning of owls are. I am not superstitious about owls so that is why I cannot figure out why it is bothering me.
It was also a kind which I cannot recognised and there were babies as well.
Could you please come back to me
Thank you
Sonja
== Commentary by kris on Owls in my dream by Sonja (980623) ==
I'm intrested in this dream about Owls that bothered you. But I need more information that this to go by. When I comment on a dream, I need every last detail of it, including colors of things in the dream, and your feelings of things while you were dreaming about them. I need to know everything as if you were trying to explain a story or movie to me in exact detail, as it happened, leaving nothing out.
I don't think that there is some blanket statement meaning that someone can say "Owls mean such-and-such." Dream symbols are different depending on the person's perception of these things, and depending of the context, and of your feelings in the dream.
I am intrested in this dream, and would undoubtedly have some comments on it if I were able to view it as a movie in my mind. Please re-post it in great detail.
Thanks,
Kris a.k.a. DreamWind
DreamWind
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Remember always, that all power comes from the creator *************************************************************
== Commentary by MGM on Owls in mythology (980624) ==
Hi, Sonja. I did a little bit of research on the Web but couldn't find any interpretations of owl dreams. I did find a bit about the owl and its place in myth. Here is what I found:
Because he is a solitary night bird, the owl has come to represent the forsaken. Job in his affliction calls himself "a companion to owls". [Job 30:29] He has been abandoned by the light and makes a fearful noise because of his sufferings. The solitary bird is assumed to be lonely and Job longs for the companionship of God which he once enjoyed.
The forsaken Christ says, "I am like an owl of the desert." [Psa 102:6 NKJV] He has been abandoned by the Father, the crowds, even his disciples. This psalm often bears the caption: "A prayer of the afflicted when he is overwhelmed, & pours out his sighing before the Lord." Adam Clarke calls it, "The prayer of the captives in Babylon when ...they were almost worn out with oppression, cruelty, & distress."
The owl is associated with ruins - places that have been utterly abandoned and are unfit for human habitation. The complete ruin of the cities of Israel's enemies is emphasized by statements like: "the owl and the raven shall dwell in it" [Isa 34:11 NKJV], it shall be an habitation of dragons and a court for owls" [Isa 34:13], "the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation." [Jer 50: 39] Since the owl is a bird of ill omen, its voice among the ruins warns future generations that herein lies the wrath of God.
Regarding ill omens, the prophet, Micah, foreseeing the punishment of Israel, says, "Therefore I will wail and howl, I will go stripped and naked: I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls." [Micah 1:8]
Since the owl loves darkness it was associated with death and the Devil who is the Prince of Spiritual Darkness. As the Devil lays snares for the children of Adam, the owl was believed to lead his fellow creatures into the hunter's traps.
In Celtic regions this night-dweller was considered a "corpse-bird" or "night hag". Asian peoples told tales of the owl stealing children in the night. Others believed witches could fly about in the form of owls and that sorcerers could send messages by means of this bird. The tufts on the heads of horned owls caused them to be associated with demons especially that of avarice or greed. The owl was also associated with cold weather, death, moonlight, blindness, and passivity.
Christianity saw in the owl a symbol of Christ who came to those who sat in darkness and in the shadow of death. [Luke 1:79] This is the case with owls in pictures of the Passion. Early mystics believed the owl had a luminous substance in its eyes which dissolved the darkness, giving it excellent night vision. In the same way, the light of Christ was said to dissolve the darkness of this world and give a pure and good direction. The Christ-owl may be found with the cross on its breast or head.
In Le Livre des Symboles, the light or wisdom of the Holy Spirit is represented by the owl who brings light to the dark souls of unbelievers. The owl was used by the Greeks to symbolize wisdom and, as such, it is an attribute of St. Jerome. It is also representative of the wisdom found in solitary prayer and so appears in pictures of hermits. As wisdom, the owl is a symbol of meditation, retreat, or the scholar. As the scholar, it is often found perched on a scroll or book.
Except where otherwise indicated all scripture quotes are from the KJV.
More information about owls is available at:
The Raptor Center Raptor Pictures
Make ASCII Owl Pics with Your Computer at:
The Complete Guide to Owls 1997 by Suzetta Tucker
** Dream: Animal Morphing by Nutcracker (980723) **
I was at home when I got the message that I needed to go to this place to transfer an animal from one location to another. I was with three other females. One was my best friend Barb, the other two, I never saw their faces. Barb was in the front passenger seat, I was sitting behind her. We both had our windows down. I was cold and closed mine, wondering if I should ask Barb to close hers too, but when I closed mine, hers closed automatically. Did she read my mind?
We're driving along, out in the country on a dirt road. Up ahead we need to take a left. As we do so, to my right I see a grungy Mexican guy in a beat up tan truck talking to some young boy leaning against a large tree. I think to myself, boy, get yourself in the house and quit talking to strangers. I feared for the boy's safety.
We made the left turn and came to our destination. It seems like it might have once been a small zoo, now abandoned. I walked to were I knew the animal to be. It was a narrow rocky path, sandy and golden in color. The cage was at the end of the path. It was actually a cage inside a cage. The animal, whatever it was, was banging the interior door against the exterior door. I opened the outside door. I don't know what kind of animal this is. It appears to be a small (dwarf size) deer, but the deer face looks more like a Tapir's, oblong and thick. It doesn't have the delicate features of any deer I've ever seen. The animal is still banging away on the door. There's no way I can open it and try to catch the animal by myself in the cage I brought with me. I close the outer door and then open it again.
Now the animal is lying flat on the ground and is a white (baby) seal. The seal then stands up on its hind flippers and is hopping and ranting about the cage (acts and looks like the Tasmanian Devil in the cartoons). I close the door and go back to my friends.
Now Bruce Willis (Armageddon) has come to help. He and I go to the cage. He opens the first door then puts his hand inside the second and pets the animal (which is now lying flat again and is the baby seal, only brown in color now). Then the baby seal nips at his hand, but not seriously biting him. Bruce opens the seals mouth to show me his teeth. It looks like some alien creatures teeth. It has long white teeth and these are covered with green circular, sharp pointy teeth that rotate. There are approximately 6 of the green circular teeth. Bruce leaves and I think that now that the animal is calm, I can get it into the other cage with the help of my friends. (7/20/98)
BATHROOMS [Maintenance, Cleansing and Elimination]
BELONGING [What we are associated with or wish we were]
BOOKS (Extensions of our memory and imagination, our permanent records)
** Dream: Protecting my Book by Cunyat (980710) **
I am in a bookstore with a friend of mine. I am following him whilst he buys a book for her wife. He buys a book on jogging, "Running for Health" and, as I practice that sport regularly, I got somehow flattered.
When we reach the cashbox, I see a book next to it which I instantly feel it is a book of mine and I take it. I say: "That book was mine!" meaning that I was carrying it when I entered the bookstore and I don't have to pay for it.
And that's it.
When I recalled this dream it didn't look very interesting at first, but when I began to play with it I soon realized that the book I took in the dream was somehow very meaningful to me.
The book was dark brown, with hard covers, and it seems very precious to me in the dream, as I hold it next to my chest.
The first thing that struck me was that whilst the book is in the bar supporting the cashbox it is upside down so that the front cover is not visible, and when I hold the book the front cover is against my chest so that it is not to be seen either. On the other hand, the back cover is blank and doesn't say anything.
I felt as though the book could show a part of me that I am afraid to show to others for fear they could write, scratch or spoil the book, as that would hurt me deeply.
When I tried to continue the dream so that it could make me feel better, I found that the bookstore was in a first floor, and that its window opened over a garden blown by a very refreshing wind.
I also found that the pages of the book were completely blank: white, new pages with no traces of anything on them.
I wanted to get out to the garden and feel the fresh wind. Also I wanted to get rid of the book. However, I could not leave the book behind, and at last I found it attached to me by its spine, as though it were a part of me (in fact the book sprouts from the middle of my trunk, its spine spanning along part of my chest and belly, with the pages directed outwards).
What at last made me feel good was the image of myself flying over the garden, with my book hanging down from me, so that its pages are also blown by the wind, ready to get in touch with the elements and all the forces of life.
Trying to look at the dream from a psychology point of view (I'm not at all a psychologist, so please forgive me if what I say looks silly from that point of view), I would say that the dream is trying to say to me the following things: being quite a reserved and shy person, it seems that I am afraid to look at life directly. That's the reason I follow my friend sheepishly in the dream, using him in the dream (and perhaps others in real life) as a barrier to shield me from the emotions of life.
That is the reason for the book being so white and untouched (not letting the emotions of life to reach me), and I think that the dream is telling me to open the book (my inner self) to life, to stop using others as shields, to face life directly, to experience fully what life has to offer, and most important, to enjoy it.
Hope you like my dream!
BRIDGES [How we get across an obstacle or go from here to there]
CELEBRITIES [The well known - famous and infamous]
** Dream: My Dream of Chuck Norris by ? (980704) **
Dream Title My Dream of Chuck Norris Date of Dream 7-4-98 11p.m.
One night I had two dreams of Chuck Norris. In the first dream we were chasing each other around with a hose. We were under a large tree going around. It was a very happy time and the sun was shining and the birds were signing. Chuck had one a blue shirt. I don't remember anything else of this dream. I dream of Chuck often and I am a big admirer of him.
In my second dream that night, Chuck was in a fight with Bruce Lee. Bruce knocked Chuck to the floor and took a bag of rice out of my fridge and choked Chuck to death. As Chuck was dying, I held his hand telling him not to die and to use my strength to get through it. He looked at me and then died.
I would like to know what these dreams mean. They are the two I most think of and wonder what they may mean. I thank you for your time.
CLOTHING [What we wear tells us about ourselves and the events we participate in]
COMEDY [With an accent on puns, funny situations or jokes]
COMMUNICATIONS [From telepathic to devices to signs & symbols]
COMPUTERS [Extensions of our minds, mind tools, communication]
CULTS [Somewhere out there ...]
DIRECTIONS [Ever stop and ask for directions? North, South, East, West, up, down, ahead, behind, straight, turn, right, left, make a circle, cross, go through, open, close, mix, add, boil, cook, simmer, but most of all - follow these instructions carefully...and don't be shy about asking someone else down the path, except, of course, for the Big Bad Wolf!!!]
== Commentary by Heratheta on Various dreams ==
From: Heratheta@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:03:51 EDT
nurse dream-thanks for being someone others were sure of the day of this dream and for taking some time to the left and or right of the elevator
snowman dream-thanks for having been a nice person traveling to the right or left of the doorway of that room where your peace lay after this dream
owl dream- of course you explained your own dream and acted correctly by not becoming trouble for anyone including yourself following this dream seeking the path of peace to the right or left of the birds I know all these dreamers did the best they could following these dreams and will continue to do so and I am encouraged helping to encourage them to the right or left of the geographical locations above until their next dreams and mine. I travel a lot to the north northwest and south southeast in my peace trying always to maintain my course with a different behavior from the dream's. peace is a real geographical direction that can change heading and walking it with your attitude and not the dream's is a help to us all.
www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/ has more details. peace is a way.
From: Heratheta@aol.com Subject: dream bust and car dream Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:19:03 EDT
dream bust- the time you spent to the right and left of the living room in peace is also important
car dream-the time you spent normally after this dream is encouraging to me
From: Heratheta@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:21:42 EDT
dark river dream-warned avoid danger ---
chuck norris 1 warned avoid happy---chuck norris 2 warned avoid needing someone else's strength---
elm st.dream-warned avoid scaring yourself and others---all warnings were for the day following these dreams and avoidance should have been to the right or left of the geography of the dream.
From: Heratheta@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest ed-core.v001.no096 &.n097 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:36:36 EDT
protecting book dream-warned avoid somehow---
eyes of someone else dream warned avoid fact---
flagpole dream warned avoid easier---all above warnings were for the day following these dreams remembering dreams can be nutritionally helped with these tryptophane rich foods--pork shrimp lobster duck apples pineapple watermelon hazelnuts asparagus onions mushrooms cabbage broccoli cauliflower beer tequila(100% agave only) most everything else is harmful to memory as well as I can remember
From Heratheta Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:00:04 EDT
of course they are related if you look at the words-had to & having to- the dreams were showing you what was becoming excessive in your live and those were the things you had to do From: Heratheta@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest ed-core.v001.n103 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:26:46 EDT
tornado dream- avoid very in your thoughts and deeds until the next dream and as an old piece of advice gave proceeding in an unvery mood to the left or right of the tornado would have been the way
From: Heratheta@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:33:20 EDT
thanks for avoiding "some kind of" in yourself and others following this building dream and seeking peace to the left or right of the building in a way that is definite
DISCOVERY [New insights and unexpected developments]
DREAMING [Dreams about dreaming]
DRUGS [Healing or Hurting?]
EATING [Getting nourishment for maintenance, growth and pleasure]
ELEVATORS [Going UP or DOWN - Push the right button or else...]
ESCAPE [Get me outta here!!!]
** Dream: the dark river by (9807057) **
Dream Title the dark river Date of Dream July 5-98
I dreamed I was beneath a chair drawing objects that were common like a shoe, a chair leg and such.. then I find myself in front of a large estate..I had come by van to this place and I was standing in the sloping parking lot (the estate was on a mountain top) and I looked about up and down the road.. There was a feeling of danger here and I knew it before I had even arrived. I looked up and the sun was warm and shining on the trees that surrounded the estate on all sides. There was oddly, nothing to be seen beyond this position, so I looked down at my clothing to see who I was? I suspected I was involved in something medical because I wore mostly white..(I find myself dressed in white frequently in my dreams)..I was wearing a white dr's coat and some heels in white. I walked towards the building and noticed that the outer structure had a wide stone staircase to the left that wound around the building to somewhere. I enter the front side door, right beside the stone steps and walked into a large hall, or room that was busy with people walking about. They were all in the medical field and I entered and walked up to a staff attendant who was awaiting my arrival. I looked at a chart and turned to see that there was a cell with bars to my left. In it was a man seated on a bed. He was watching tv and yet I knew he was watching me at the same time. I spoke to the attending doctor and I discussed the case with him.. I then noticed that a male nurse was entering the cell to bring food to the man in the cell at the time.. I turned to the doctor and warned him outright that the man in the cell was extremely dangerous and that I knew him well. I went on to say that the man in the cell could not be trusted with even the smallest of instruments or toys to amuse himself with.. The doctor assured me that they were taking every precaution. I knew this not to be so...
Now I see myself in the parking lot. It is important to me that the van is still there and that I can leave whenever I want. I re-enter the facility and in my mind, I am seeing the male nurse being stabbed by the man in the cell. I do not actually see it, but rather, it is a premonition of what is either about to occur or perhaps already occurred.. I am not sure.. I walk in slowly...up to the main desk.. there is no one about. I turn towards the cell.. the man is gone.. as I suspected...I now hear the sound of a ball hitting a glove. I turn towards the front door.. The cell man walks casually by, tossing a ball into a glove..he turns to look at me...I freeze.. I see him but I do not move even though I know he sees me.....he goes past the door now.. I begin to reason out a plan.. I look about but I can see no one still left alive. I must assume that they are all dead. I decide to go to the stone stairs.. I figure that the man will not think that I would walk towards him.. I exit the main floor and run up the stairs hoping that there are those who are still alive on the second floor. It is hot and I am running fast. I enter the upper floor door and I find myself in a room similar to a motel room. There is a bed, a bureau, a large mirror on top, and a window on the far side of the bed. I think to myself that I must find comfortable shoes to escape with.. My visual concept at this point is that the van is no longer of any use because I see the cell man pulling wires from it. I look out the window and down to the parking lot..So many vehicles there and probably every one of those people is dead.. these were my thoughts at the time. I turn and see myself in the mirror. I am blonde, straight haired and thin. I am wearing a blue and pink blouse and probably in my mid 40's.. I do not look at all like my real self and I note this as I see my reflection. Yet the other me.. the real me is there inside the mind of this person. We are separate entities at this moment while looking at the mirror. Now I look down and at the side of the bed is a pair of sneakers. They are a bit worn and fleural in pattern. I sit at the end of the bed and begin to put them on. I am thinking consciously about scaling the side of the wall from the bedroom and making a run down the mountain towards help. I fiddle for a moment or two with one shoe.. thinking it is a bit large for me... I begin to put on the other one...I AM STARTLED AT THIS POINT.. the cell man is standing right to my left above me. My only recourse was to pretend that I was not seeing the man or rather seem to be in a trance to avoid his presence. I looked up into the mirror and I see us both in this instance. He is smiling at me. He is middle aged, greying slightly on the sides, has perfectly straight teeth, a 5 o'clock shadow, beige shirt with faint stripes, dark beige khaki dress pants. I continue to stare at him as I rise up to make my exit. I now feel that I am knocked backwards by a force much greater than him. I land on the bed and I look up into the mirror. I see the man standing there in the mirror.. he is peeling off his face to expose what appears to be raw flesh. With an evil white smile he lays on the bed beside me, holding me. I feel his presence is pure evil.. I attempt to push away but he is too strong.. I then begin to see my reflection in the mirror .. I am slowly rising above the room.. beginning to look down at the cell man on the bed, his reddened fleshy face is hard to look at yet I find myself watching it.. I know what is happening on the bed is wrong yet I am now detached to it in some way.. watching it as though it were a tv show or something.. I am thinking that I am dead now and that is why I am separate from the woman below me..I cannot be sure. As I rise above, I see the woman still struggling yet I have no concept of her sense of fear or terror.. nothing matters to me now.. then I wake up.
Comments by Dreamer: I am a frequent flyer in dreamland..I love to write my dreams down.. I touch, smell, taste and experience some out of body experiences in my dreams and would like to know if others do the same. I feel my dream was a memory of something.. this was my impression when I awoke....
Comments: I want to find someone who understands the relevance of these dreams.. they are much too strong for me at times.
EYES [The organs of sight...the window to the soul...]
FEAR [What scares us]
** Dream: The Snakewoman by MGM (980626) **
When I was a young boy, I dreamt about a bust of a woman my parents had in our family home. In waking life, the black marble bust stood on a chest of drawers in the living room. In my dream the statue came alive as a woman with the body of a snake. She was speaking to me and looming over me, and I was very frightened of her, though I cannot remember what she was saying.
MGM
** Dream: FREDDY by Fiona (980708)**
Dream Title FREDDY by Fiona Date of Dream 7/7/98
I am in a huge old warehouse; the scene is exactly like in all those Nightmare on Elm St movies. It's damp and steamy and I can't see further than three meters away from me as it is so dark. I'm scared. Then I realize that someone is drawing closer to me and instinctively, I run from them. It turns out to be Freddy Kruger and he chases me for what seems like hours. His knives are out and he is slashing them at me, missing me by millimeters every time. Then suddenly the scene changes and I am now being chased around home. I see my father and I scream and scream for him to help me. Helplessly screaming, I think I will be killed for sure. I'm still running and screaming for help and realizing that my dad is doing nothing to help me. Then flash back to the warehouse and I am again running, but this time I fall down and hide behind some thick metal pipes. I'm trembling, trying to sob quietly as I know my death is not going to be peaceful when freddy suddenly pounces on me while making the most hideous noise ever imaginable. It is at this time that Freddy befriends me and tells me how lonely he is because everyone always runs from him. It is at this stage that I have incredible sex with him, climaxing in seconds. At this stage I wake up.
FOOD [The source of our physical nourishment]
FIRE [Flames bring light, heat and destruction/transformation]
FLYING [Confidence, Power, Freedom & Perspective]
GIFTS [Offerings to or from others]
HOBBIES [Our interests and desires]- COLLECTING THINGS
HOLIDAYS [Time off to ...]
HOSPITAL [A place for treatment, healing and repair]
** Dream: Medical nurse at Hospital admission by MB (980622)**
My husband and I are in a hospital in adjoining rooms. I see people going into the elevator to go shopping on another level. Before getting in I want to make sure which floor we are on so that I can find my way back to my room afterwards. Then my husband is in the elevator too in a wheelchair. When the door of the elevator opens he says, "let's get out of here." Suddenly, I cannot find him anymore and I hear that they are calling his name over the P.A. system. I have a conversation with the woman who is doing the paging. They have located my husband but they think he should be punished for leaving his hospital room without permission. I embrace the woman and say that even if her job is ordinary, it is still very important work. I watch her while she registers some new patients that are coming in.
End of dream
HOUSE [Where our lives take place]
** Dream: Group Home by dreambat (980712) **
I'm at a group home for boys, but only the director is there. I have a sense that its afternoon and everyone is out. The director is talking to me from the kitchen, he may be preparing a meal or checking the supplies. I see my wife Cassidy lying on a couch in an orange bikini. She looks like a teenager herself. We go outside and I see a thick flagpole. I climb up the pole. There is a metal double loop section for tying off the rope for the flag I have to get past, and its easier than I thought it would be. Climbing is also easier than I thought it would be and I go up much further than I expected, maybe half way. I fear loosing my strength and climb back down. I'm surprised that Cassidy isn't more impressed.
dreambat
HOTELS [Temporary Dwelling or Special Event location]
JOURNEYS [Missions away from our home base -explorations]
** Dream: Blue Moon by ? (9604XX) **
Dream Title Blue Moon pt50 Date of Dream 07/11/98 7:30pm
Okay, here goes...
This dream took place April of 96 while I was in Chicago taking care of a sick friend. I was suffering from a bad tooth at the time and was treating it with a bee propolis herbal complex.
It was about 2am and I was restless in my sleep, woke up long enough to dose myself then drift back off. Before I could slip back into oblivion I was taken by this dream/illusion...
I am definitely looking through the eyes of someone else... this I know for a fact. I know this as I know myself. This was the very first sensation I got as I began this dream/illusion. Whoever this person was allowing me to view through his/her eyes.
It was night, there was a full moon (I know... it sounds like a cliche opening) and I was standing in a small grove. I was watching the moon rise above the trees which was to my right. As I turned to the left viewing the surrounding area my eyes rested upon a Huge earth mound. As I looked down toward my feet, I saw that my hand was resting upon a outcrop of smooth stone about waist high.
The night was filled with an eerie blue light that was not a part of the night.
As I looked at the hand, I saw a ring with a blue stone in it. It was my right hand. The ring looked familiar, similar to the lapis lazuli my sick friend had given me on my birthday several years back. She knew nothing of the stone, just thought it was me and had it mounted.
As I looked at the ring, the entire hand and ring began to glow with the same eerie blue light. At that moment my eye was caught by a movement at the mound. A door was sliding open from right to left and inside I saw two stone tablets with writing similar to hieroglyphics but somehow different. As my curiosity became immersed with the tablets, the door continued to open and next to the tablets was an Egyptian statuette kneeling, sitting back on its heels with its hands resting on the its lap. Suddenly, from the corner of my eye, my attention was caught by the statuette.
== Commentary by MGM on 'Blue Moon' (980713) ==
Richard, please use this version. Thanks!
Mark
>Dream Title Blue Moon
There were several powerful symbols in this dream.
**It was night, there was a full moon (I know... it sounds like a cliche opening) and I was standing in a small grove. I was watching the moon rise above the trees which was to my right. As I turned to the left viewing the surrounding area my eyes rested upon a Huge earth mound. As I looked down toward my feet, I saw that my hand was resting upon a outcrop of smooth stone about waist high.**
I thought you might like to read what Barbara Walker has to say about groves and the goddess known as Isis in her book "The Women's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets":
"GROVE, SACRED Next to a cave, a grove was the most popular uterine symbol in ancient religions, even among the early biblical Semites, to whom Asherah was the Mother-Goddess of the Grove. A large tree, pillar or obelisk within the grove often represented the male god inside the Goddess as both child and lover.
"The Old Testament 'Asherah' is translated 'grove,' without any explanation that the sacred grove represented the Goddess' genital center, birthplace of all things. In the matriarchal period, Hebrews worshiped the Goddess in groves (1 Kings 14:23), later cut down by patriarchal reformers who burned the bones of Asherah's priests on their own altars (2 Chronicles 24:4-5). ...
"...The Goddess's grove-yoni was 'Athra qaddisa,' the 'holy place' (literally 'divine harlot'). Sometimes she was called simply 'Holiness,' a word later applied to Yahweh. ... In Egypt she was also a Law-giving Mother, Ashesh, an archaic form of Isis; the name meant both 'pouring out' and 'supporting,' the functions of her breasts. ... Some called her 'Great Lady of Ashert, the lady of heaven, the queen of the gods.' "
And from the Egyptian Book of the Dead (as cited by Walker)), Isis was:
Terrible one, lady of the rain-storm, destroyer of the souls of men, devourer of the bodies of men, orderer, producer, and maker of slaughter ... Hewer-in-pieces in blood, Ahibit, lady of hair ... Fire-lover, pure one, lover of slaughterings, cutter off of heads, devoted one, lady of the Great House ... her name is Clother, hider of her creations, conqueror of hearts, swallower of them ... Knife which cutteth when its name is uttered, slayer of those who approach thy flame.
**As I looked at the hand, I saw a ring with a blue stone in it. It was my right hand. The ring looked familiar, similar to the lapis lazuli my sick friend had given me on my birthday several years back. She knew nothing of the stone, just thought it was me and had it mounted. As I looked at the ring, the entire hand and ring began to glow with the same eerie blue light. At that moment my eye was caught by a movement at the mound. A door was sliding open from right to left and inside I saw two stone tablets with writing similar to hieroglyphics but somehow different. As my curiosity became immersed with the tablets, the door continued to open and next to the tablets was an Egyptian statuette kneeling, sitting back on its heels with its hands resting on the its lap. Suddenly, from the corner of my eye, my attention was caught by the statuette.**
Of rings, I found this in "A Dictionary of Symbols," by J.E. Cirlot:
"RING Like every closed circle, the ring is a symbol of continuity and wholeness. This is why (like the bracelet) it has been used both as a symbol of marriage and of the eternally repeated time-cycle. Sometimes it occurs in animal form, as a snake or an eel biting its own tail (Ouroboros); sometimes as a pure geometrical form. It is interesting to note that, in some legends, the ring is regarded as the only remaining link of a chain. Thus, it is told that when Jupiter allowed Hercules to rescue Prometheus, it was on condition that the latter should thereafter wear an iron ring, set with a piece of rock from the Caucasus, as a symbol of submission to his punishment. Another type of ring is found in the circle of flames surrounding the dancing Shiva as he performs the cosmic dance; this flame-ring can be related to the Zodiac. Like the Zodiac and the Ouroboros of the Gnostics, it has an active and a passive half (evolution, involution), and stands for the life-cycle of both the universe and each individual being: the circular dance of nature in eternal process of creation and destruction. At the same time, the light radiated by the ring of flames symbolizes eternal wisdom and transcendental illumination."
Also, Walker writes of lapis (which means 'stone' in Latin): "LAPIS MANALIS 'Stone of the Underworld,' or of the dead, the sacred stone covering the pit of the 'manes' on Rome's Palatine Hill. At the annual festival of Mania, the Ancestral Moon-mother, the stone was removed and her children the 'manes' or ghosts-of-ancestors were invited to join the feast. Sometimes the festival was called Parentalia, since the ghosts in the underworld were the same as the 'di parentes' or 'parent gods' from past ages. Northern Europeans celebrated the same kind of festival at Halloween or Samhain, also a feast to which ancestral ghosts were invited."
As you may know, some ancient societies such as Amerindians and Celts buried their dead in barrows, or burial mounds.
So if what these scholars have written can be applied to your dream, you, the Anointed Ring-Bearer, saw the Moon Goddess of Life and Death with the Tablets of Law emerging from a Phallic Burial Mound in her Sacred Grove, which is the goddess's own Yoni! Rather millennial, if you ask me.
MGM
** Dream: cross country ski party by stan kulikowski ii(980718)**
(note: stan Requests that his name and address be kept intact)
<bigger> DATE : 17 jul 1998 08:58 DREAM : cross country ski party
=( last night I was up until 02:30 preparing my presentation powerpoint slides and sample programs for today's lecture on pointers. when I got finished I tried to go right to sleep as there is a lecture on campus I would like attend at 09:00. the lecture is on instructional technology. the topics did not sound very advanced but it would be good for me to show myself at these gatherings, besides I would like to see what the woman has to say. I set the alarm for 07:55. but I can not get to sleep for more that an hour yet. when the alarm goes off, I hit the 15 min snooze and turn it off on the second sounding. still unable to move, I fall back to sleep without intending to. )=
mark littlefield's new house in massachusetts is a typical farmhouse, built in the mid1800s with large paned windows in kitchen where I sit with his wife, fran. the view those windows is very nice, taking in the valley and what used to be farm lots, now slightly wooded and developed into scattered housing. across the valley is a singularly steep mountain side, thin trees lost without their leaves in midwinter. and it is snowing. the start of a lovely new england snowfall with big fluffy white flakes floating down and beginning to accumulate on the mountain side across the way.
francis has a friend with her, a woman with large eyes and dark hair. we have been talking about renting some cross country skis so we can go skiing later tonight when the snow gets deep enough. it will be a little a warm, so early in the season, but it is fun to slush about even in the wet packing snow. the only drawback is putting the soft red wax on your ski base at the start of the season which has to be flamed off for a hard wax base later when it gets properly cold. of course, since the skis we will get are rentals, they will probably be waxless and so there will be no problem in gumming up the ski base.
"I am looking forward to skiing down that mountain over there." I tell the two women, indicating the view through the window.
"isn't that too steep?" asked the wide eyed woman.
"well, ninety degrees is too steep because you just fall and break bones and your equipment. no fun that. but anything slightly less than ninety can apply contact to your skis as gravity pulls you. that contact keeps your skis oriented to the surface and the slight friction gives you enough control to move left and right around the trees. it does not matter how fast you go so long as you keep control and the pull out at the bottom is gradual enough that your legs can support you on the shift from down to flat." I make this all sound thrilling and fun, but it really is not quite that easy.
"mark is here. we better go." says fran.
outside mark has pulled up in the driveway in a large american car, a lincoln or bonneville pontiac I think. it has huge bench seats inside. the exotic woman and I get in the back while fran sits up front. the drive to the university is short, but mark tells us that we are going to stop for witherspoon on the way.
herrold witherspoon is a friend of mine from new york, and i will be glad to see him again. but the wide eyed lady suddenly looks unhappy. she tells me that she and witherspoon had been lovers once, but this arrangement did not end very amicably. she squirms a bit as mark pulls into another drive down the road.
witherspoon's house is typical of a sculptor. parts of various projects scattered about like loose anatomy carelessly discarded at a butcher's shop. a head of a deer there, a small rhinoceros overturned there, a flight of small sea birds frozen in wood forever startled into almost flight. while we wait for witherspoon to come out, i notice something odd. in the wood lot behind the garage that serves as his studio, i see a couple human skulls among the leaves on the ground. these appear to be real bone and not some artist's model. around the other side of the garage i find a few more human bones among the trees. i understand that artists need anatomical models as well as medical people, but these appear to more natural remains like an indian graveyard being uncovered by natural erosion.
i do not have much more time to consider these remains as herrold comes up to the car. he is dressed in massive layers of a heavy coat and scarves. no sooner than he touches the front car door, then the dark lady in back with me starts to moan and squirm, upset by his appearance. seeing her, he pulls back from the door handle. she looks the other way, biting her hand and trying control herself, but she stills lets out a noisy wail in spite of herself.
this is all very nonverbal, but witherspoon mutters something to mark and goes across the driveway. he starts up a dusty blue bmw which obviously he has not driven in months. mark starts up our car and we proceed back out on the highway.
"what was all that about?" i ask her. "witherspoon has been a friend of mine for many years and i know he is not cruel or nasty. sometimes careless, but never deliberately mean."
"well," she says with a sigh, "one night when we were sitting around naked after a few hours of love making, he took offense at how i got this scar on my back." she slips her shoulder out of the halter top to show me her shoulder blade. she has a large pink white scar the shape of a wilted flower. a daisy, bruised and drooping with petals missing and a torn leaf still clinging to the stem. this is not some injury that happens to look like a flower, but definite decorative scarification. someone whittled that into her flesh with a pen knife.
"i guess he could not handle my days as a biker slut." she sighed again as if missing him. "you can not imagine how much fun i could have behind the vendors boothes at yankee stadium on a saturday afternoon." indeed, i guess i can't.
it is not long until we get to the university. in the main campus building of the student union i supposed we are there to get our skis and leave, but mark says there is some instructions we have to listen to before we can get fitted for the shoes. we have to go upstairs.
as we approach the stairway, there is another group coming down. it looks like a batch of new students on tour for orientation. their guide is explaining some feature of the student union and mentions something about antiabortion facilities for preparing rallies and protests.
i take a rattle out of my pocket and start to shake it so it makes its stacatto clicking noise. this is something new that people use to identify themselves as prochoice supporters. it looks like a small glass test tube with tiny steel beebees inside. by shaking it, the steel beads roll over tumblers and make a noise similar to a rattlesnake or a ratchet depending on how fast you shake it. the purpose of this device is to warn the prolifers that we are already decided on the issues so no one has to waste their time with useless rhetoric. the crowd on the stairs makes way for us, my clicking clearly bothering them. but once we are on the second floor, i can put the rattle back in my pocket and we proceed to the shoe fitting room.
once i sit down and remove my boots to try on the rental ski shoes, i am dismayed by appearance of my left foot. the toes are all crumpled and blackened like they are dead. i reach down to straighten them and they have no feeling or movement. when i start to stand on the foot, there is only a numb tingling sensation from them. taking a step, the whole foot curls over so i stand on the back of it with the shriveled sole pointed upward. i quickly take the weight off it, worried that i might also damage the bones in the ankle.
i sit back down, massaging the poor senseless foot. perhaps if i get some circulation back into it. i think that the skiing might help to straighten and strengthen the foot, being lashed to a long board for exercise.
=( i wake again. 08:40. it is too late to go the lecture at the university, but enough time before class to type this in. my left foot does has a tingling sensation in the two smallest toes. this has been there for almost a week to a lesser degree, but this morning it is pronounced. i have wondered if this might be the onset of some nerve disease, like amyotropic lateral sclerosis, which begins with deadening of the peripheral nerve ending. earlier in the week it seemed slightly noticeable in the smallest toes of both feet, so it is less likely to an injury or due to uncomfortable footwear. today it is clearly pronounced on the left foot when i woke up. no idea yet what this minor discomfort is about. the real witherspoon i know lives in new york and has distributed the ashes of his wife and several friends around his wooded property on the edge of a reservoir watershed. that is probably where the washed up bones notion came from. )= </bigger> . stankuli@gulf.net === qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit | | who not is today, tomorrow less suitable will be --- -- Ovid _Remedia Amoris_ i 94
== Commentary by Heratheta on Cross Country Skiing (980719) ==
skiing dream-this dream showed you you needed to avoid becoming in your thoughts and deeds something you and others are looking forward to this would hve been most easily accomplished to the right or lift of the mountain in the dream
LOST [Disorientation or abandonment]
LOTTERY DREAMS [Sudden Wealth - Randomness favors the dreamer]
LOVE [All around us, yet so hard to find and keep]
LUCID DREAMING [Knowing you are Dreaming when you are Dreaming]
MEMORY [Remembering ...In dreams we often struggle with the issue of memories and remembering a dream which by definition involves the process of recollection.]
MIRRORS [Reflection of Self]
SEE The Dark River under ESCAPE
MUSIC [Melodies of the land within]
NUDITY [What you see is what you get]
PERFORMERS [Entertainers]
PROBLEMS [Situations or difficulties sometimes present choices]
POLITICAL SCENE [Public issues through positions of power]
RELATIONSHIPS [Other parts of ourselves including family which constitutes the first and earliest of our relationships, often influencing how we relate to the outside world]
RELIGIOUS RELATED [The Ritual and the Spiritual]
** Dream: Crowley Dream by lp (980702) **
Hi:
I had an unusual dream last night that I would like to share. Usually my dreams are so surreal that they are hard to recall correctly, let alone describe. Although this dream was strange, it was much more clear than usual. Also I was able to remember most of the events upon waking. I welcome any comments or interpretations..
A group of friends (fictional) and I were going to the apartment of an elderly lady who had passed on. She had been a recluse and no one really new her. It was as if she had invited us to discover what her life was about and to settle things for her. We went to her home, understanding that we would be leaving our old lives and taking a new path. Inside the front door to her apartment was a very small room (little more than a large box). One at a time, we each climbed into the box. As each person got entered, the room would turn around and the turn back empty.
On the other side was a huge cavern. In the center of the cavern was a temple. In the far wall, on either side of the temple, there were two large holes. A river flowed out of each hole and across the length of the cavern. There were a large number of rooms on either side of the hall. This was the ancient temple of The Golden Dawn and it was where the members of that order were taught. It had been empty for years and we were to be the new members of the order. Athough no living persons had been there in ages the souls of Alister Crowley and the rest of the order were still present.
We each took a room about the size of a cubicle. In each room was a bed and a nightstand. Inside the nightstands and in small hidden cabininets, were book written by Crowley (all the books were written under different names but it was understood he wrote them all).
Throughout our time in the temple there was always a sense of imminent danger from the natural elements. At one point a boulder, swept along by one of the rivers (the one on the right of the temple), blocked the hole from which that river flowed. We had decided to leave for fear of what might happen when the pressure built up behind the stone. As we were leaving one of the members decided he was going to stay, and went back into the main hall. Just then there was an explosion, as the boulder broke through. We were all sure he was dead. We felt as if the group was one single unit and, feeling we had lost him. it was as if all of us had died. However when we reentered we found him shaken up but alive. At another point we were going though some artifacts left by Crowley. There were a number of walking sticks and I was to choose one to use (I do have a real life disability and sometimes use a cane). I was not comfortable with most of them. I found one that was comfortable although., it was so long, it was more like a staff (yes, I am quite aware how Freud would interpret this). We were required, after a time, to choose one particular area of his (Crowley's not Freud"s) work to study. I chose his books on astrology and the cosmos.
That was pretty much it. I realise some liberties were taken with the history of Crowley and The Golden Dawn, but that's what dreams do.
lp
P.S. There are no guarantees, expressed or implied, with regard to the spelling of words in this letter.
ROMANCE [Thrills and Chills, lost in another]
SCHOOL THEMES [Learning and learning related trials]
SOLUTIONS [The answers to problems or quandaries]
STAIRS [Bridges between levels, between the upper and the lower]
STRANGERS [Who and what we don't know yet]
** Dream: snowman by ? (980601)**
Dream Title snowman Date of Dream 06-01-98
i have a friend that has someone come to her in her room and talks to her about herself and has a black robe on and a hood and won't let her see his face. he recently cut her on her leg. is this person dangerous and what should she do with him or about him. she is afraid of this person.
TEETH [Ok, losing teeth is one of the top ten dreams people have questions on. Theories on what they mean range all over the spectrum of possibilities.]
TORNADOS [Pretty well defined destructive power of nature]
** Dream: Tornado man by ? (980625) **
Dream Title Tornado man Date of Dream June 17th, 1998, 6am.
To start out, I've been having repetetive nightmares about tornadoes for about five or six years. I'm 16 years old. I've never been in a tornado in real life. Usually, in my dream I am aware of a tornado coming, and my biggest dilemma is getting all of my family into the basement. For some reason they don't come right away, and keep saying things like "wait just a minute until I finish my coffee." I wake up in a total panic.
A few nights ago, I dreamt that I was eating lunch with some friends outside and saw a tornado coming. I Hurried and pushed most of my friends into a windowless bathroom. I went back outside to get the last girl, but the tornado had turned into a man who said he was hungry. I offered him my plate of macaroni and cheese, and he ate it. Then he looked at my friend Tessa and said "But she's full of blood" and he tossed a broken plate like a blade, straight through the middle of her skull. I woke up knowing that I was the next one to have my blood sucked by the tornado. It's confusing, but I knew in my dream that the tornado WAS the man, and I feared him accordingly.
Comments by Dreamer: I am really curious why I keep having these repetetive tornado nightmares which change every night, but always with a tornado about to get me.
== Commentary by Heratheta on Tornado Man (980626) ==
thanks for staying calm after a dream like this and taking some time to the right and left of the tornado"s path.
** Dream: "Top of the Hill" by dreambat (980628) **
My wife and I are traveling somewhere in a city neighborhood. Oddly we have found a path through or across building tops. We get picked up in a car, it's Cassidy's (my wife) old 64 Chevy Malibu, though more grey. Her older brother is driving. He is a smarty-pants and tease but isn't bugging us too much right now. We ride on the back trunk, on top of the car. At a hill I decide to get off and walk for exercise. We both walk up the hill, but near the top are no longer sure which way the car went. Its evening and there are many neighbors handing out, as if it were the Fourth of July and they were waiting for a fireworks display. I notice a line in the sky and tell everyone its a tornado. The tornado starts to drop, then doesn't. I think about how this is the top of a hill, and that its meeting a tornado would be like the old mystic prints of Yahew when He would create and axis mundi between tornado and mountain. I've asked everyone to get down, but they aren't very concerned. I'm still very excited at having seen the tornado in its line-in-the-sky mode.
dreambat
** Dream: Tornado Dreams by Bluemoon(980720) **
Hi,
Just wondering if someone could help me decipher a strange dream I had. The dream had to do with a very large black tornado and a stranger that had approached me earlier in the day. The dream was very vivid and I can not seem to stop thinking about it. You can E mail me at bluemoon@thedog.housemail.com Your insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Bluemoon
TRAPPED [Temporarily helpless- Sometimes we are paralyzed or imprisoned by jobs, relationships or expectations]
VEHICLES [Means of transportation, reflection of lifestyle]
** Dream: Airplane by Joe (980720) **
Dream Title Airplane by Joe Date of Dream night of july 17
I was in an airplane. I was sitting in the back, talking to someone. Before we took off, I moved to the front section. As we were taking off, the plane hit a wall. There was no roof, so me and the other passangers had to watch the plane hit. Even after we had hit, it kept going, striking objects untill finally coming to a stop.
Comments by Dreamer: I'm not sure what this means, but i had a dream the same night where i was reunited with three girls whom I had met about 2 weeks ago at a resort. I was at the same resort, and I saw them for a while before having to say good-bye once again. I believe that this is directly related to the airplane dream, which occured directly before/after.
WATER [A magical earthly fluid, nourishment, cleansing]
WORKPLACE [Where we make a living]
WRITING & WRITERS [Communication and creativity]
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Well friends that's it for the dreams section of Electric Dreams Volume 5 Number 7. Thanks for reading. Send in your dreams and commentary for our next issue ED 5.8 September 1998.
Hasta La Vista!
Bob K.