E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #13 Issue #9 September 2006 ISSN# 1089 4284 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Electric Dreams: http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams Cover: http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed13-9cov.jpg o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes Richard Wilkerson ++ Global Dreaming News Harry Bosma ++ Cover: PsiberDreaming 2006 http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed13-9cov.jpg Elizabeth Diaz ++ Column: An Excerpt from the Lucid Dream Exchange Lucy Gillis – Editor Ed Kellogg III, Ph.D offers a new challenge ++ Column: A View From The Bridge Exploring Mandorla Energy Jennifer Star ++ Dreams: “Public Space” And “Dharma Displacement” Stan Kulikowski II ++ Column: The Dream as an Archeological Dig DreamRePlay with David Jenkins, PhD ++ DREAM SECTION: Kat Peters-Midland XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX D E A D L I N E : Send articles and news in by September 20th, 06 for the Oct issue XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Send news, events, workshops, conferences& reviews to Harry Bosma Send Articles, news and other items to: Richard Wilkerson: o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Editor's Notes o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Welcome to the September 2006 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreamwork online. If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, there are a few e-lists where Electric Dreams people seems to congregate that might interest you. One is dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com Subscribe by going here and registering http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dreamchatters/ .. and another is the IASD bulletin board. Please, no dreams interpreted here, just discussion of dreaming and dreamwork topics. http://www.asdreams.org/subidxdiscussionsbboard.htm As you probably know if you have been following Electric Dreams, the big online IASD PsiberDreaming Conference is coming later this month, and at Electric Dreams we want to support the event as much as possible. Thanks to Liz Diaz, the ED Cover this month is pretty much a reproduction of the 2006 PsiberDreaming Conference poster. The prices for this online conference make it practically a give-away at under $40 for two weeks of discussion with the dream researchers doing work on the extreme edge of dreaming. Hope to see you all there: www.asdreams.org/psi2006 In this issue: Global Dreaming News editor Harry Bosma, brings you dream news and events from around the world, online and offline. If you have dream news you want to get out, please send those to Harry for next month’s publication at ed-news@alquinte.com Lucid Dream Exchange (LDE) editor, Lucy Gillis, regularly shares gems from her publication with Electric Dreams. In this month’s Excerpt, E. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D. explores the experience of light in dreams. What can it be? What is its source? Ed offers some experiments for lucid dreamers to find the nature of dreamlight. Read about this in“Exploring the Bizarre Physics of Dreamspace Part 2: "Dreamlight" The space created between two intersecting circles is an almond shape sometimes referred to as a mandorla. Besides being an interesting shape and the Boolean overlap of space logic, this concept has a long history of serving to focus our attention on the intersection of the TWO, of the resolution of the opposites, of the reconciliation of the incompatible. In “A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE, Exploring Mandorla Energy” Jennifer Star summarizes the explorations of the World Dream Peace Bridge and their take on the mandorla and how it can be used to revision world peace. Our Dream Section is a bit smaller this month, so I’m including two dreams from Stan Kulikowski II, “Public Space” below and “Dharma Displacement” at the end of the Dream Section. Stan often contributes selections from his unique dream journal. If you have dreams you would like published, please enter them in the form at http://dreamgate.com/forms/dream_flow.htm David Jenkins, PhD., the director of Berkeley based DreamRePlay, pulses online each week useful hints and techniques for dreamworkers. In this month's selection, " The Dream as an Archeological Dig " David explores the truth, the many levels of dreamwork. This month we’re featuring a short dream section with dreams with dreamers enjoying while watching a statue of Jesus crying blood, talking with a dead father, acting in a movie, and searching for a friend. If you have dreams to share, use the dreamflow form at www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Janet Garrett archives past issues so you can search out specific articles and authors in an easy-to-access format. These articles contain a wide range of information for dreamers and dreamworkers. You can see her work progress and view hundreds of article on dreams at: http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/index.htm Cover by Liz Diaz, http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed13-9cov.jpg -------------------- For those of you who are new to dreamwork, be sure to stop by one of the many resources: http://dreamgate.com/electric-dreams http://dreamgate.com/dream/library http://dreamunit.net/news-en/ Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo) http://electric.dreamofpeace.net/ -------------------- From Planet Dream, -Richard Wilkerson o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S September 2006 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Got news? Email Harry Bosma at his special ed-news@alquinte.com address. Online: - Strephon Says: Podcasts and blog - Dream of Peace Network - 2006 IASD PsiberDreaming Conference Physical world: - UK: Founding of new group - Toronto: Dreamreading Seminar - USA: Robert Moss - USA: Jeremy Taylor - South Carolina: Dream Studies Program 2007 - Berkeley: Dream Art Show - Berkeley: Free lecture by Bob Hoss - Berkeley: the Dream Institute - Santa Fe: Workshops by Victoria Rabinowe Reminders: - Dream Workshop in New Lebanon, NY - Virtual Dreaming Art Gallery - Ritual DaFuMu for Peace * * * ONLINE * * * --- - Strephon Says: Podcasts and blog --- By following Strephon's podcasts you will be engaging in a consciousness course by experiencing the meaning of the dreams Strephon talks about as he developed their themes and wisdom aspects. Strephon Kaplan-Williams is an international expert on dreams and the new dreamwork, as reflected in his many books over the years. His best seller in America and other countries has been his The Dream Cards. However, his dreamwork manuals are the respected classics in the field used in college and university classes as well as by the general public. Now in retirement age Strephon gives his podcasts and continues to write new books. http://strephonsays.com/ --- - Dream of Peace Network --- The Dream of Peace Network website is a portal, bringing forth peaceful, positive energy from the dreaming, into the waking world. This site aims to showcase some of the wonderful creations and projects inspired by our dreams, list current adventures being undertaken by groups of active dreamers, and generally serve to connect and network the wider dreaming community. http://www.dreamofpeace.net/ --- - 2006 IASD PsiberDreaming Conference --- Scheduled from September 24-October 8, with an additional two weeks of read-only availability, the fifth annual PsiberDreaming Conference will bring together a stellar cast of presenters and workshop facilitators along with live chats, contests and bulletin board discussion. The conference will feature a special discussion of the Physics of Psi Dreaming, with a presentation of Dr. Montague Ullman's paper, "The Dream in Search of a New Abode" and response by Mark Schroll, Ph.D., along with a new conference feature, the presentation and discussion of several papers and workshops in either Spanish only or Spanish and English. This feature of the conference will be led off with a paper by Stanley Krippner Ph.D. and Rosa Anwandter, Ph.D.: "Dreams and Shamanism in Latin America." This experimental approach to programming reflects the growing internationalism of IASD. Dolores Nurss and Curt Hoffman will serve as innkeepers at the conference Psiber Dream Inn, where weary travelers can stop by and share a tale. In anticipation of the conference, the Psiber Dream Inn has opened as The Outer Inn on the regular IASD Discussion Board, which as always is freely accessible. Go to http://asdreams.org/psi2006 for full details. * * * PHYSICAL WORLD * * * --- - UK: Founding of new group --- Do you live in the UK? Are you interested in dreams but feel isolated? Would you like to meet people of a similar mind and be part of a UK-based group connected to IASD? If so, please contact me - Kate Adams (UK academic contact for IASD). I am organising a new UK group and am holding a one day meeting on Friday 15th September 2006 at Bishop Grosseteste College, Lincoln, to discuss ways forward. The day is free, which means that places are limited and booking is essential. For a copy of the programme and a booking form, please email kate.adams@bgc.ac.uk or write to: Dr Kate Adams, Senior Lecturer in Education Studies, Bishop Grosseteste College, Newport, Lincoln LN1 3DY, UK --- - Toronto: Dreamreading Seminar --- A Method For Using Dreams In The Healing Professions Presented by Christopher Sowton, N.D. Date: November 4 & 5, 2006 Time: 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. each day Location: The Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine Cost: $250 for health-care professionals $175 for Naturopathic Alumni Association members $125 for students Using video clips of actual dream material Christopher will introduce a practical method of understanding and making use of dreams in clinical practice. This seminar will be valuable for any practitioner in the healing professions who wishes to make better use of their client’s dreams. For more information or to register, visit www.ccnm.edu/conted.html or call 416-498-1255 ext. 255 The Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine 1255 Sheppard Avenue East (at Leslie Street) Toronto, ON M2K 1E2 --- - USA: Robert Moss --- For your convenience, here are some highlights from the calendar at: http://mossdreams.com/ Soul Leading Five-Day Advanced Training Sunday-Friday, September 17-22 Madison, CT, USA http://mossdreams.com/2006sept.htm#soul%20leading The Three "Only" Things Evening Workshop Wednesday, October 4 Albany, NY, US http://mossdreams.com/2006oct.htm#knowledge%20network Healing through Dreams Evening Talk Friday, October 6 Sperryville, VA, US http://mossdreams.com/2006oct.htm#virginia%20fri Soul Remembering Weekend Workshop Saturday-Sunday, October 7-8 Sperryville, VA, US http://mossdreams.com/2006oct.htm#virginia%20weekend The Power of Active Dreaming Evening Workshop Friday, October 13 Wakefield, RI, US http://mossdreams.com/2006oct.htm#wakefield --- - USA: Jeremy Taylor --- September according to the schedule of Jeremy Taylor. For more, see www.jeremytaylor.com/pages/schedule.html September 14-Nov 2 - Sonoma, CA Class at Osher Life Long Learning Center, Sonoma State University, School of Extended Education; meeting every Thursday, 9:45-11:30. Open to all. "Exploring Dreams and Our Evolving Spirituality." Contact: 707/664.2691 or email barbara.brooks@sonoma.edu or go to www.sonoma.edu/exed/lifelong/ September 8-10 - Boulder, CO Caritas Spiritist Center Weekend Workshop: "Spiritism, Healing and Dreams," Friday Lecture: "Looking Into the Dream Mirror: Spirituality and Dreams." Schedule: 7-9 Friday night. Experiential workshop: 10-4 Saturday and 10-2 Sunday. Friday lecture is $15. Saturday/Sunday Workshop is $110 before Aug 25 and $125 after Aug 25. Mail $50 deposit for the full weekend or $15 for Friday only, to The Caritas Spiritist Center, 3775 Iris Ave, STE 3B, Boulder, CO 80301. For directions and registration call 303/449.3066 or caritascenter@msn.com September 13 - Berkeley, CA Chaplaincy Institute program for Interfaith Ministers. Must be enrolled, but visit their website to learn more about them: www.chaplaincyinstitute.org . 1:30-4:30 Dreams Class. September 14-Nov 2 - Sonoma, CA Thursday mornings (9:45-11:30) the Osher Learning Center at Sonoma State sponsors an 8 week class (open to all) "Exploring Dreams and Our Evolving Spirituality", on the Sonoma State campus. Open to all. Contact Lou Miller at lou.miller@sonoma.edu September 15-17 -Miriam's Well Retreat Center, Saugerties, NY Weekend Workshop at Miriam's Well: "The Political is Personal: Dreams and the Larger Community." Jeremy has been offering workshops at Miriam's Well for several years. It's always intense and fascinating. Great setting and wonderful staff. All are welcome - new folks and returnees. Cost: $75 registration fee (tuition is waived), single room is $120- $150 and a double is $100. Optional food plan is $90 which includes breakfast, lunch and dinner on Saturday and breakfast on Sunday. Contact Richard at richard@miriamswell.com September 20 - Berkeley, CA Lecture at Jesuit School of Theology/New Directions Sabbatical Group: "Meaning in Dreams and Dreaming." Open only to those enrolled in the Sabbatical program, but contact Bruce Leshers for more information about the program: blescher@jstb.edu. Find out more about the Jesuit School of Theology at www.jstb.edu . September 23-24 - San Rafael, CA Weekend Workshop meeting Saturday, 9:30-5:30 and Sunday, 9:30-1pm. Open to all. This will be focused on intensive group dream work. Meeting place will be in in Lucas Valley (just outside San Rafael). Space is limited. Cost is $75. Contact Kathy to register (707/422.9308) or ktaylor597@aol.com September 26, Oct 24, Nov 28, Dec 12 - Santa Clara, CA Four meetings, 6-8pm: "Exploring our Dreams and Our Evolving Spirituality." All are welcome. Location: Santa Clara University/Osher Lifelong Learning Institute. Contact Janet for more information at jvander51@msn.com. To register, call Nicole Marciano at 408/554.2382. September 27-May 30, 2007 - Burlingame, CA Meetings are on Wednesdays, once a month: 5-6, Jeremy lectures, 6-7 Dinner and 7-9pm is experiential dream work, at the Mercy Center, Burlingame: "Dream Work as Spiritual Practice: Spiritual Guidance from Beyond the Small Self" OPEN TO ALL. Contact Catherine to find out more about the program: cregan@mercyburl.org September 29-October 1 - Napa, CA Retreat: Friday(7-9pm) - Introduction to Group Dream Work, and Saturday (9-5pm) experiential workshop, and Sunday (10:30am) Jeremy will lead a service for the Unitarian Universalist congregation. Contact Yvonne (707/226.7127) at borntoage@hotmail.com --- - South Carolina: Dream Studies Program 2007 --- Dear Dream Enthusiasts, Justina Lasley and the Institute for Dream Studies (IDS) are excited to announce the 2nd year of the dream studies program, to begin in January of 2007! This dream certification program will consist of four weekend group sessions in Charleston, South Carolina throughout 2007, as well as on-line group sharing and individual home studies throughout the year. Whether to explore your own dreams or learn to teach others to do the same, this innovative program is "one of a kind" - truly unique and enriching to participants of various backgrounds. The enrollment is limited to the first ten students accepted. To review additional information regarding the dream certification program, visit www.dreamswork.us/institutefordreamstudies.htm Justina Lasley --- - Santa Fe: Workshops by Victoria Rabinowe --- Offering Workshops in Santa Fe and elsewhere. Weekly Studio classes, every Tuesday from 1:00 to 6:30 p.m. at Victoria’s Santa Fe Learning Center. Custom designed courses of study, workshops and retreats for groups, conferences and professional trainings. Internet “remote” workshop projects for individuals and groups. Here are workshops coming up in September. Also visit the website http://victoriadreams.com/ September 5 THE DREAM AS SERENDIPITY / SYNCHRONICITY Tuesday 1-6:30 The Dreaming Arts Studio 1432 Don Gaspar $35. September 12 THE DREAM AS FAIRY TALE With Freya Diamond Who will be leading September dreamgroups until my return from San diego & the birth of Sean’s baby! September 19 THE DREAM AS THE POLYMORPHOUS SELF Tuesday 1-6:30 The Dreaming Arts Studio 1432 Don Gaspar $35. September 26 THE DREAM AS THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES Tuesday 1-6:30 The Dreaming Arts Studio 1432 Don Gaspar $35. October 3 THE DREAM AS THE BOOK OF LIFE Remembrance and forgiveness In Honor of Yom Kippur Tuesday 1-6:30 The Dreaming Arts Studio 1432 Don Gaspar $50. --- - Berkeley: Dream Art Show --- Dream artists Diane Rusnak & Dorothy Nissen present a new show. Chroma Collective Giorgi Gallery Sept 5 - Oct 1 2911 Claremont Ave Berkeley, CA 510 848-1228 --- - Berkeley: Free lecture by Bob Hoss --- Sunday, Oct. 29, afternoon, JFKU Berkeley campus The JFKU Dream Studies Program presents a free lecture with dream color expert Bob Hoss. Visit his website for a bio: www.dreamscience.org Happy Dreaming Nancy Lund Dream Studies Community Events Coordinator --- - Berkeley: the Dream Institute --- The Dream Institute of Northern California 1672 University Ave Berkeley, CA 94703 1-510-845-1767 The Dream Institute offers the following during August 2006. * Culture Dreaming * Monthly, Saturday afternoons 3-5, $20 September 9, October 7, November 11, December 2 Culture Dreaming is an experimental ritual that gives a living sense of interconnection. Dreams are first told in council fashion; then we explore the composite dream co-created. Like a camera obscura that opens a window to the world, it shows surprising relevance to current societal and global concerns. Come once, occasionally, or regularly. Conveners: Richard Russo, M.A. and Meredith Sabini, Ph.D. * Community Gathering * Fall Equinox, Saturday, September 23, 2-5pm, Free All welcome! * Tibetan Dream Yoga * October 21 Workshop: Laura Shekerjian November 15 Lecture: Tenzin Wrangyal Rinpoche * Dream Studies Open Forum * Monthly: Mondays 7:30-9:30pm Starting September 18 With Kelly Bulkeley * * * REMINDERS * * * --- - Dream Workshop in New Lebanon, NY --- September 1 - 4, 2006 Dreams, The Imaginal Realm, and the Re-Enchantment of the World Barbara Tedlock, Lee Irwin, Paul Devereux, Reb Zalman Schachter Sponsored by Elixir Magazine, hosted by Pir Zia Inayat-Khan (Watch for the upcoming issue on DreamLife (issue 3) Fall 2006 Conference info: 518-794-7834 www.abodeprograms.org --- - Virtual Dreaming Art Gallery --- Invitation. The Virtual Dreaming Art Gallery opened on the 2006 Summer Solstice and runs through the Fall Equinox, 2006. Gallery sponsored by DreamGate and the Electric Dreams community. You can enter a dream art object by posting a description of the art piece at Electric Dreams. You may also send in renditions or physical art (jpg, gif) representations or inspired pieces. Please include copyright and re-use rules for your narratives or pictures. The areas of discussion may shift and evolve over time. Please use the following form: http://dreamgate.com/forms/dream_flow.htm Richard Wilkerson rcwilk@dreamgate.com --- - Ritual DaFuMu for Peace --- The World Dreams Peace Bridge, on the 15th of each month, is holding a monthly DaFuMu - a collective dream of good fortune - to support peace. For more information go to: http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/dafumumonthly.htm To join the World Dreams Peace Bridge discussion group, just send an e-mail to worlddreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com . END NEWS ================================================ o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Cover: "PsiberDreaming 2006" Elizabeth Diaz http://dreamgate.hypermart.net/ed-covers/ed13-9cov.jpg o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Liz Diaz is a web and graphic designer residing in Austin, TX. She has been a member of IASD for several years and volunteers her time to IASD and the World Dreams Peace Bridge. www.edreamdesigns.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The Challenge continues! Ed Kellogg has been providing interesting and mind expanding tasks for adventurous lucid dreamers. Here is part two of his "Exploring the Bizarre Physics of DreamSpace" series. Enjoy! LDE Quarterly Lucid Dreaming Challenge March, 2006 by Ed Kellogg ((c)2006 E. W. Kellogg III, Ph.D.) (This feature provides an unusual lucid dreaming task for LDE readers with each new issue. Participants agree to accept personal responsibility for any risks should they choose to undertake them, which may possibly bring about mental, emotional, and even physical changes. We invite those of you who accomplish these tasks to send your dream reports either to Ed Kellogg, at alef1@msn.com, or to LDE.) Exploring the Bizarre Physics of Dreamspace Part 2: "Dreamlight" "Light seeking light, doth light of light beguile; So ere you find where light in darkness lies, Your light grows dark by losing of your eyes." William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616) (in Loves Labour's Lost) Do the laws of optics for light composed of electromagnetic waves/particles in the physical universe also apply to the light we experience in dreams as well? When we look at an image in a dream mirror, does the angle of incidence equal the angle of reflection? Do dream mirrors actually reflect, or do they simply serve as an appropriate symbolic medium for what the dreaming mind projects? Or might they do something entirely different? Does dreamlight travel at 3 X 108 dream meters per dream second? Mainstream scientific theory promotes the idea that dreams seem a kind of virtual reality, and that what we experience in dreams has no material basis as such. Historically however, most cultures believed that the dream world seems just as real as the physical world, and that the matter that makes it up simply seems much more subtle. Interestingly, cutting edge theories in physics, such as superstring theory, introduces the idea that our universe may have many more dimensions than the usual four. This opens up the possibility that dreams could take place, in a material way, in higher dimensional space-time. In dreams we see and experience 'light', but in my experience 'dreamlight' differs in a number of ways from waking physical reality light, and I doubt very much that it belongs anywhere on the accepted electromagnetic spectrum. How does dreamlight differ? Well, in lucid dreams I've noticed that most of the time neither I, nor the dream objects that I see, have shadows. And as best I can recall, this also holds true in my ordinary dreams. Now according to one widely accepted "scientific" theory of dreaming, the world we see in dreams derives from visual imagery, etc. stored in memory. According to this theory, some memories can emerge in dreams relatively intact, but most usually show up in distorted forms, transmuted and combined with other memories. I personally do not subscribe to this theory, as I have noticed many discrepancies between what this theory predicts, and what I actually experience in my own dreams. (For my own theory, see "Psi-Perception in Dreams: Next Stop - the Twilight Zone." - a 2003 PsiberDreaming Conference Presentation - at http://www.asdreams.org/telepathy/kellogg_pdc2003_001.htm ) For example, although my waking physical reality experiences include the phenomena of light and shadow as an almost omnipresent way, in my dreams shadows show up more as a special effect, rather than as an intrinsic part of the dreamscape. My experiences have led me to propose the theory that dream objects do not reflect, but instead emanate, dreamlight, and that 'dreamlight' and 'physical reality light' have rather different properties. And essentially linked to the phenomenon of dreamlight, we also need to consider the phenomenon of 'dreamsight'. Physical sight depends on the absorption properties of specific chemical pigments in the rods and cones of the retina to visible light, on the geometry of the physical eye, the shape of the lens, and so on. Could we possibly have dream eyes, made up of dream matter, that do something similar, on the 'as above so below' principle, or does dreamsight work in an entirely different way? Can we do anything to find out? If I hold my dream hands over my dream eyes, my vision becomes dark - similarly if I close my dream eyelids. If I put on a pair of dream glasses my vision becomes sharper - when I take them off, my vision may blur. Of course dreamsight may work on entirely different principles and each of these effects may happen simply because I unconsciously and habitually expect them to. However, I also unconsciously and habitually expect to see light and shadow effects - yet these rarely occur despite similar expectations. Through careful observation and considered experimentation, lucid dreamers can learn something about how they see in dreams, and what they see in dreams. And perhaps by comparing notes, and taking note of unexpected commonalties and differences in the results of such experiments, we can begin to lay the groundwork for an understanding of dream reality based on first hand evidence, rather than on theories and opinions of armchair philosophers and scientists. The Challenge: Exploring the Properties of "Dreamlight" When you next become lucid in a dream (where you know that you dream while you dream) pay attention to the manifestations of light in your dream environment. Look for "a source of dreamlight" - a dream sun, a dream moon, a dream lamp, even a dream fire (does it feel hot?) . . . If you can find a source of "dreamlight", do you find dreamshadows behind objects that it illuminates? If you pick an object up that has a dreamshadow and move it about, does the dreamshadow behave similarly, or differently, to the way a shadow of a physical object would? If you can find a dream lamp, try turning it on, and off. Does it go on immediately, or after a delay? (I've experienced both). When you turn it on, carefully observe what happens to the dream objects nearby. Do they become brighter? Do they cast shadows? Do the shadows disappear when you turn the dream lamp off? If you can not find any obvious dreamlight source, simply pay attention to objects in the dream environment. Does light appear to come from within dream objects, or does the object appear illuminated from the outside? Does one side of the object have more light than another? Do you see any dreamshadows? If so, what kind of properties do they have? Record your experiences and interactions with dreamlight sources, dreamshadows and dream objects in your dream journal in as much detail as possible - include colored drawings and diagrams. Bonus Challenge: Exploring the Properties of "Dreamsight" Although I've found it rather difficult to bring reliable scientific instruments into the dream universe, one can perform meaningful experiments using one's dream body as the instrument and one's lucid dreaming mind as the recording device. For example, I came up with some experiments in regard to the mechanism of seeing in dreams, to determine whether I do in fact 'see' in three dimensions using binocular vision. In physical reality a dry run of the experiment works like this: Part 1. With both eyes open look in the distance. Move the palm of your left hand towards your open left eye. As it moves closer it will begin to block the view. When it comes fairly close (but does not yet cover the eye tightly) the view to the far left will disappear - however the right half of the hand will appear transparent, as for this area the visual fields from the right and left eye overlap, usually giving complementary - but in this case providing competing - images. When you hold the hand closely covering the eye, blocking all light, you will see only the visual field of the right eye. Repeat this procedure for the other eye. Part 2. Now with both eyes open, hold your right index finger - pointing up - a few inches in front of your nose at eye level, in the middle of your visual field. When you focus on the finger with both eyes you should see only one finger. However, if you look in the distance (not at the finger), you will see "two" fingers, an apparent doubling due to binocular vision. Close one eye, continuing to look in the distance, and you will now see only one finger. Open that eye, and you will see two fingers. Close the other eye instead, and you again only see one finger, but it will appear to have moved slightly depending on through which eye you view it, as each sees the finger from a slightly different perspective. I've succeeded in performing this experiment on more than one occasion while fully lucid. In one dream I went out into a forested area, which certainly looked as three dimensional to me as a physical reality counterpart, and I performed the procedure outlined above. For example, looking in the distance with both eyes, I saw my dream finger doubled - when I blocked the vision from one of my dream eyes I only saw one dream finger. Although the results of this experiment seemed almost the same when performed in a dream as when done physically, it did have one difference - in the middle of my repeating this experiment my finger turned into a twig of about the same size with buds! However, with the same results - when seen through both eyes looking in the distance I saw two finger-twigs, with one eye I perceived only one finger-twig. (Incidentally, I did intentionally change the twig back into a finger for the last trial run.) Now this experiment does not prove beyond doubt that I see through 'dream eyes' with 'binocular vision', but it certainly offers evidence that supports this theory. I encourage any lucid dreamer who wants to try this experiment to do so and report on their findings. Simple experiments of this kind can yield intriguing and fascinating results. Do you have binocular vision in your dreams? Monocular? Triocular? Omniocular? As always, we invite those of you who accomplish this quarter's challenge(s) to send your dream reports either to Ed Kellogg, at alef1@msn.com, or to LDE! ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com ******************************** o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o A VIEW FROM THE BRIDGE Exploring Mandorla Energy Jennifer Star September 2006 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Peace Bridge exploration of “mandorla” energy as it relates to peace started soon after I joined the Bridge in July. I had discovered a comment made by Kathy while searching through the 2006 DaFuMu dreaming section on the WDPB website, and I was able to find and correspond with Kathy (and the Bridge). Then for the next several weeks, spurred by the awareness of mandorla energy, numerous posts ensued on the Bridge related to the mandorla. The comments, insights, and relationships to mandorla energy come from a variety of areas such as: -- Finding and dreaming peace during the escalation of violence in the Middle East -- Favorite quotations -- Relationship to the word “duende” -- Dreaming the mandorla for “work” and “play” -- Shadow elements in ourselves and the world -- Examples of mandorla energies in everyday life -- Working out Bridge issues. Kathy’s original comment found on the WDPB website: "From my experience peace lies in the MIDDLE of those opposites (in Midland), for in the MIDDLE I can hold my awareness of BOTH possibilities AT the SAME TIME. When I do that there is peace, as from that position the former opposites transform themselves into something much more useful and something I can practically respond to?aware of the possibilities. My mind is at peace and I can act more fruitfully in this area of my life." Jennifer’s response on July 18th: Last year I was made aware of the Mandorla (the center almond-shaped area in an ancient symbol of two circles connecting) by way of a friend who was facilitating a peace group. I did quite a bit of research on the mandorla as I have been using mandala imagery for quite a while. In my research I had the epiphany that peace was not the opposite of war, as many people project, but was rather, in the MIDDLE between collaboration and conflict. It has never made sense to me that Peace had an opposite. To me, Peace is a center point, a place of balance. I created a computer image from this epiphany that is attached for you to view. Your comment so fits with what I discovered, and I was happy to know someone else who gets it! Here are some comments about the Mandorla I found on two websites: "To step into the Mandorla is to move beyond 'either-or' thinking--even beyond ideas of common ground or compromise--and stand in the tension of opposites long enough for something new to emerge. In the realm of the Mandorla, the whole truly yields something greater than the sum of its parts, opening doors of possibility, discovery, and creativity." "It demonstrates the principle of 'power with,' rather than 'power over,' and it stands as a signpost on the path of walking between opposites." "Relational... When any two people come together, possibilities exist for both conflict and collaboration. Holding the idea of a Mandorla in a relationship creates a 'container' strong enough to carry multiple perspectives. Instead of destroying the relationship, difficulties can be transformed into new opportunities for learning, self-expressing, and mutual benefit." --Mandorla Resources International (http://www.mandorla.com/context/what.html) "The circles symbolize interacting but complementary opposites. The space within the overlap is the place in which we are called to 'remain', the 'liminal space' Richard Rohr speaks of... This is the place where you arrive after you leave one room and have not yet entered another. In this place, you are living on the threshold and this requires faith. All transformation takes place in liminal space." "The Mandorla, known in both East and West, expresses the standpoint of the mystic. It symbolized for us the tensions of life, the tension of complementary opposites." http://www.kyrie.com/symbols/mandorla.htm To elaborate a little bit more on the history and definition of mandorla, here is an informational piece found at another website: “The Mandorla, a symbol that is all but unknown today. It was used during the times of medieval Christianity. It is an ancient symbol of two circles coming together, overlapping one another to form an almond shape in the middle. Jensen (1996) describes the Mandorla as similar to the image of two Mandalas (Sanskrit word for circle) merging together until an almond shape is formed in the center. Also known as the ‘Vesica Piscis’, symbolizing the interactions and interdependence of opposing worlds and forces. The circles may be taken to represent spirit and matter or heaven and earth (Baldock, 1990). “Mandorla is the Italian word for almond. According to Biedermann (1994), the almond is an ancient symbol for the closing up of valuable contents in a hard, almost impenetrable shell. “During the medieval times, the almond was interpreted as a symbol of the embryo enclosed in the uterus. The form of the almond which suggests a stylized vulva may have contributed to such an interpretation (Biedermann, 1994). It is also a variant of a halo which surrounds the whole body of the holy person (Bruce-Mitford, 1996). “According to Fontana (1994), the Mandorla symbolizes power as well as spirituality, and is often appeared around the body of Christ to represent the Ascension (Fontana, 1994). http://www.touregypt.net/mandorla.htm July 19, Kathy dives in to utilize the mandorla energy for dealing with and dreaming peace for the Middle East conflict: I think we need now especially to focus our dreaming minds on the rampant terror in the Middle East: -On what is happening in Iraq daily -On the terrible new escalation of violence and bombing of people in both Lebanon and Israel -On the growing, by media and political means, blaming of Iran -On the terrible anger and calls for retaliation YET all of this has called forward such beautiful responses about peace as well. Kotaro said: If my Anger was on the map of Israel or Arab/Muslim, I have to be ashamed of it. I think Anger could be transformed into another kind of energy, much deeper prayers perhaps. I mean Anger is not composed of only negative energy but also positive one too. I, Kathy, said: Sadness for the horror of violence. Sadness for the pain and suffering. Sadness for the need to retaliate. AND Jennifer - just at this time sends her most beautiful mandorla of peace. Can we DaFuMu for peace - perhaps keeping in mind the horror of all those images of death and mutilation and destruction ALONGSIDE of the gentle beautiful thoughts of a "positive anger at it all”, of a "call for peace because of it all" of a "sadness because of it all?. IF we can we will be holding our minds in that beautiful Middle that Jennifer has shown in her mandorla-the Middle where there is PEACE. Once we are there we can see more clearly how to act to create peace. Just being there ADDS to the PEACE in the world and perhaps shifts the balance. Who would like to join in? July 19, Patricia shares a quote that holds mandorla energy: Jennifer quotes Kathy: "I can hold my awareness of BOTH possibilities AT the SAME TIME. When I do that there is peace . . . " This is one of my favorite quotations: "Papa's deep tolerance made us sense that everything in life might be possible, perhaps even forgivable, but that one must answer largely for oneself, be responsible, and yet not surprised if injustice were done. He intimated further that we should courageously attract that which was possibly impossible, to welcome it. The world consisted of the accessible, real, factual, of all that was limited; but also of all that was created by faith, all that was true and boundless. Only the 'dry-as-dust' rationalist lived and was governed by the first; the romantic and enthusiast by the second. But to combine the two ways, to weave them together with simple decency, that was the aim of the whole man. What made him whole was that he loosely controlled both the possible and impossible, reality and fantasy, the factual and the true, the restricted and the unrestrained, the bounded and the free-- offsetting this duality by devoting all his will toward giving them equal play." --Monika Mann July 19, Jody supports Kathy’s call for DaFuMu dreaming: I just spent a long time writing to all of you in response to Kathy's call for a Saturday DAFUMU and Jennifer's beautiful evocation of a space in the middle with the mandorla image. Know I send you all my many thoughts and love and big yes to joining in the space in the middle on Saturday DAFUMU for middle east and all the hottest spots on the planet. May cooling rains, deep waters of our dreaming refresh our spirits so we may hold the middle space, be the middle space of peace for ourselves and others. July 20, Anna shows us the relationship between “duende” and mandorla: Lately the sense of 'duende' is very much with me--that word from spanish music and poetry that speaks of soulfulness, of how the light and dark are mingled; if either is ignored it’s to the death of both, day without night, spring without winter--the mandorla seems to picture this in part. So, we have to take in the horror (so easy to 'say' it) and go forward not just FROM but WITH that--with that terrible awareness that in a part of each of us is that capability--and “what are we gonna do about it?” The classic question. Everything we can from smallest to largest, most inner to most outer. From living peace in daily life to writing, protesting, taking whatever action comes to hand. The admitting of the horrors is necessary to fuel the action--thus, duende. My recent wave of this maybe will illustrate. Feeling how much I loved my children; being so strongly aware how I cannot keep them safe, 'make' them happy, and then in that realizing, a taste of freedom--free to give them their lives, and, applicable to this work here, free to do what small things I can do to help their happiness and safety. July 23, Jennifer has a dream with mandorla energy, finding a “peaceful” balance between “work” and “play” I had a very interesting dream this morning that had much anger in it, which is unusual for me in my dream time and awake time. When I look at the dream in relation to the intention of dreaming peace in the Middle East it makes some sense for me. I haven't processed this dream fully yet as I only get a vague feeling of the meaning. Actually, I am having a difficult time working with it and getting anything down in writing. I welcome any comments. Here is the dream... I am at Matt’s (a building contractor, and bookkeeping client of mine) home. He and many other people are there. Feels like a party, but Matt is at his desk trying to figure something out with regards to his business and finances. He keeps getting distracted by all the people that are there and they seem to not care if they are bothering him. Since I am his bookkeeper I try to help out, but the crowd of people is also bothering me. I take a stack of paperwork and leave to go to my office to get away from everyone. When I get to the office, which is a building owned by Matt, there are two couples-- male/female--also just arriving there and they seem to be interested in kayaks that are hanging from the rafters of the open-sided building (reminds me of buildings in Hawaii). I ask them to please leave now as I need to work. They do not respond and continue to look around. I seem to be focused on the women as I get angry at the lack of response and rudeness. I make several attempts to explain why they must leave but they continue to not respond. Now I am very angry, fuming in fact, and don’t know what to do. So, I go to the computer and turn it on, then notice that a cable has been disconnected from the computer. I know that someone in the group of couples has done this. Even angrier now, I take the loose cable and begin swatting at one of the women, hitting her in the face and ranting at her at the same time. The violence finally ends and I reconnect the cable to the computer and it turns on in the way it is supposed to. When images come up on the screen, one of them is the American flag. Now there is a new woman there, someone I know, (in the dream only) and the couples have asked her to take a picture of them. I think, “what next?” and feel very frustrated at the whole situation. I am now feeling ashamed of my behavior, anger, and violence and begin thinking about how I can approach the situation in a way that the couples will respond to my request that they leave since the anger and violence did not work. EOD July 23, Rita H. responds to Jennifer’s mandorla dream with her dream wisdom: Here go some of my thoughts if it were my dream: There seems to be conflict between work and playtime? In the first scene Matt is trying to work and there is a group of people partying around him who do not let him do his work. Then the dreamself tries to find a place to do work and again there are two couples who are interested in kayaking? Maybe there is too much work being done and not enough playtime? The disconnection of the cable from the computer may even be sabotage activity to get me to stop working and have some fun with a physical activity? When the cable is reconnected the American flag appears which makes me think of American conditioned values of productivity? Then a new female character appears who is interested in photography/ a creative outlet? And the dreamself is just not getting the message:))and keeps getting more upset. At the end of the dream the dreamself is trying to reframe the requests in a more pacific way but does not seem to get the message from all these throngs of people in her who want more fun, play, creativity and physical activity? July 24, Anna adds her thoughts to Jennifer’s dream: A small thought following on Rita's thoughts about your dream. You say that the anger felt through it is unusual for you in dreaming or waking life. One understanding I have of anger is that it arises when energy is thwarted? it’s NOT the uprising energy itself, but a response to its frustration. How else do we all feel but helpless, powerless, frustrated, and furious at times in the face of horrors we feel but feel also unable to change? I wonder if maybe that wise Dreaming Self was sending the message that Play might be the way to get the Work done? There were couples interfering with the work (real people interfering with money management?). Perhaps a sense that it is in partnership that we best battle the disconnection that is War? You mentioned particularly that the couples were m/f, which might be read as alliance of polar energies? They were very interested in kayaks?I think of water energies as exactly what the sharpness of war is NOT. In a 'particle' universe we are separate, in a 'wave' universe the flow surrounds and connects us all, and a kayak is a vehicle in which we are most allied to the waves, as we manage its motion by shifts in out own hips! These are just ideas though of course! It is a rich dream and I won’t have your own resonances with it. Maybe at least my guesses might give you something to say yes! or No! to in exploring it. Thank you for sending. Though I know I cannot read 'your' dream, it surely does connect to images of my own and ripple out. I am convinced, for instance, that the way to counter war is with what’s been called “an army of lovers". To powerfully nourish what is good in the nascent culture we want, more than lop off what is rotten. July 24, Jennifer interprets her dream, helped by Rita’s (and Anna’s) wisdom: Thank you deeply for your uncanny sense of the deeper levels of my dreamself. What you say makes sense to me. These are the thoughts I've had in reviewing the dream as a personal work/play dream: Matt is a fun-loving man, one who does take time out to play with his buddies and his young teen children. It was odd that he was having a party but not participating. I, on the other hand, have a serious problem with being too serious and not playing enough. I have a hard time simply thinking of things to do that I think would be fun. I also think the element of him being a building contractor is an indication that I need to build on a foundation of fun in order to move forward in a healthy way. The couples and the kayaks: I really enjoy kayaking and the last time I did was with Craig in Hawaii two years ago for our 10th anniversary vacation. We had so much fun kayaking and snorkeling in the ocean! And we kayaked in a tandem kayak. Since my attention and anger was directed at the women, I can see how that is my own anger at my lack of being able to pursue more fun, and I am beating myself up about it. The disconnected computer cable: I spend a lot of my time working at the computer. Sometimes I have a hard time tearing myself away from it to do something outside or creative. But I also love to work on the computer and carry out many creative projects there as well as work. Double edged sword... The woman taking photos: Just like Craig and I did in Hawaii, we had someone take pictures of the two of us together, having fun. Interestingly enough, I just visited my father and his wife on Thursday last week and the one thing I noticed strongly was how my dad's wife took away little ways of his having fun, shooshing him and nudging him in his side. I realize now that my awareness of that is because I am in need of having fun and not shooshing myself. July 26, Jennifer talks about embracing shadow elements: In working with shadow elements in my life, those aspects I don't want to look at and hide away, I have found that they simply want to be acknowledged and honored for their contribution. When they are shunned and thrown out they will arise in my life in such a way I have to notice them, but often in a destructive manner, like a child throwing a temper tantrum. When I acknowledge the shadow, embrace it and love it, then a balance is achieved and the intensity of its presence calms. I know that there are some really big shadows in our world right now, and I am doing my best to love them just as I love the beauty of an undisturbed natural place or the smile of a happy child. It is the mandorla energy, the merging of opposites that helps us find that central place of peace seen. August 1, Jennifer shares a poem: Mandorla... Mystic space Union of opposites Living on the threshold Standing in the tension of possibility, discovery, creativity, transformation A container strong enough to carry many perspectives A signpost on the path of walking between opposites Mandorlas in Daily Life... Ponder on the ‘feeling’ of magic during these in-between times ‘ Dawn/Dusk - neither day or night ‘ Birth/Labor - neither pregnant or mother ‘ Twilight Sleep - neither asleep or awake What other mandorla times can you think of? ~Jennifer Star Summer Solstice 2005 August 2, Anna responds to the question in Jennifer’s poem: ‘What other mandorla times can you think of?’ Well...there is the obvious! When two are making love, neither one nor the other-- autonomy/communion in action! All the Rites of Passage really--between the veils as one dies, partaking of both realms; between child and adult. I think mandorla is the exact human condition really. The chinese say, ?between Heaven and Earth." There is power and beauty in accepting the limits of our embodiedness, as a river runs stronger between firm banks. The moment of coming to an agreement in a fight--when the smaller tow of each participant is seen to partake also of the larger whole that serves both. The moment of being highest on a swing--just as you begin the downward swoop. The moment when the inspiration of a poem takes flesh--loses potential, gains actuality. That sense of knowing that the past and future are one with me in this moment. What is called an “ecotone,” that rich region where ecologies meet. I did research on the intertidal zone long ago as a naturalist--wet, dry, sand, ocean, full. The experience that the practicing of scales lets one riff free-er. On and on... Mandorla, duende’it is one of the essential notions. If we can embody this we can make peace. August 2, Rita H. offers her wisdom: I am reminded of not too long ago when I was having a difficult time assimilating the difficult political information and wanted more dreams on the bridge and I had that powerful collective dream of the Bridge that reflected that all was well on the dream bridge, it was thriving, growing and changing, and bringing in information about the inner and outer world and that I needed to take care of myself as I was in the process of grieving. That I could not return the Bridge to the first year of its life, when all of us were actively involved in the inner dreaming world and sharing our personal lives in depth and artistic expressions to come to terms with the 9/11th tragedy. That the Bridge has a life of its own, a river that flows in and out affected by all the participants at each moment in time. That what was important is that we each speak our truth and pay attention to what we can and let go of what does not resonate with us at the moment or we can't handle. Yet also express those opinions to the group so conversation is generated that acknowledges differences and we find a collective way. That the Bridge represents true freedom of speech and is able to handle a large diversity of opinions and grows in the process as an individual separate entity as we grow individually by participating in what we want to participate in and being the truth of who we are. I remember from my complaints and dreaming at the time, a vivid conversation ensued, like this one, and more dreams started flowing into the bridge. And I enjoyed that. So let each of us continue expressing exactly what and who we are--moment to moment-- bringing in our diverse opinions and allowing the Bridge to hold it all, as a sacred container, the way Jean envisioned it when she created it. And let each of us remember self care which is affected by who we are individually, what we love and prefer, what we can handle and not handle, participating in what we love and also giving ourselves the permission to take hiatuses from it as many of us have done, over and over, gone away and come back to this rich river of conversations that nourishes the world and nourishes us all. And the Mandorla is exactly about that, is it not, holding the tension of opposites and creating a new shape and form in the process? August 2, Anna shares an example of mandorla energy in response to Victoria’s nickname, “Mermaid”: I grew up on Mermaid Lane and have always felt very connected to her (a mermaid). And have to say, isn't she exactly a mandorla?! August 4, Anna responds to a post by Jennifer asking for introductions from Peace Bridge members, and talks about the difference between ?fighting? and ?hating?: ...it’s most natural to get to know one another in process,...a true flow. I’ll share a few things it calls up for me, as part of the process of our knowing. One I feel strongly about is that for me, there's a big distinction between fighting and hating! Maybe it is our definition of 'fight' that is different though? You see this here on the Bridge--there are true, deep disagreements, and strongly stated at times. This joins us, I believe, rather than separating as hate does. To 'fight' as I'm using it, is to truly see the other as real--exactly as real as oneself--and holding some of that universal truth we all strive for. Thus I long for engagement with them! Hatred though turns the other into less than, nothing, flat, something only to be squashed so that my way can prevail. A fight can be hard--it calls for deep trust, trust that there IS that larger container holding both views. I guess my sense is that while we are all One, we are also each unique so that even when we are most connected, there will be difference. Best to explore and celebrate it than deny. Actually, I think you surely know this very well, as it is you who has brought us the mandorla! August 5, Rita H. shares where she first learned about the mandorla: I finally found the book of Robert A. Johnson where he addressed the Mandorla at length and where I first read about it. The name of the book is "Owning Your Own Shadow"... I hope you have enjoyed this journey into the liminal space of the mandorla. If you would like to join us in discussion, just send a post to worlddreams- subscribe@yahoogroups.com http://www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org/ o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Dream: Public Space Stan Kulikowski II o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o DATE : 20 aug 2006 07:02 =( yesterday was saturday. the day was uneventful. during the evening, my mother and i watched videos from blockbuster as we usually do. the last film was _v for vendetta_. i do not recall seeing this in the comics store although it claimed to come from the vertigo publishers whose work i am well familiar with. i was glad that there was never an unmasking of the protagonist which i expected through out. i got the sleep around 01:00 without trouble. )= the misfortunate woman is neither young nor old, rich nor poor, attractive nor plain. she is just in need of some privacy and so has left the common public space for the seclusion found in a public bathroom of some commercial establishment. instead of one of those semiprivate spaces usually segregated by sexes with stalls provided for the truly private moments, this bathroom is generic, single occupant with a lock on the door. the whole of the interior carries the expectation of privacy when occupied, the lock on the door to assure that right. the woman of misfortune is not feeling well and came in to freshen up with a splash of water to her face to wash away her feelings of dirt and discomfort. she turns on the tap over the porcelain sink and a feathered spray of water rushes out of the spigot. the coldness of the spray feels good upon her hands, face and the back of her neck as she carefully delivers it from the constant torrent into more manageable delicate lots applied to her person. but the incoming stream of water is a little greater than the drain can take away so the sink gradually fills up with a frothy volume. she turns back the handle of the faucet but the stream does not diminish. the woman grows a little panicky when the sink begins to overflow, at first just the topping of bubbles goes over but eventually a substantial curtain of liquid slops over the edges and onto the floor. her distress grows as her shoes get wet. over the heavy hiss of the water, she begins to let out with intermittent yelps of despair. her cries have a lost echoing sound to them, like something not human, some animal trapped by circumstance. they are not that loud, but have a penetrating urgency about them, more tenor than soprano. they communicate without words, just the basic needs perhaps to attract attention for some assistance or perhaps to just vocalize some more personal need to ventilate or release some internal pressure that is building up with the outward emergency that is growing. whatever her intention, the door to the room opens and frances barrineau steps in. the misfortunate woman had not locked it to assure her privacy which is good since she come into a need of help. frances has a no nonsense attitude about her as she sets in to aid in recovery. first she verifies that the sink handles do not operate and then searches the square tile walls for an external cutoff valve. she finds one near ankle height but although it lessens the force and tone of the current, the sink is recycling its water from the drain and so continues. the overflow would eventually lessen and stop with just recycling but the floor is already getting shoe deep in slop water. fran opens her purse and takes from it a white frosted plastic container. it is conical with a short neck that just fits a closed hand. this is a forbidden item but she usually carries it anyway. she lifts the lid of the nearby toilet and begins to bail excess water from the sink into the toilet whose drain is never on recycle. the container is a little too large to fit well into the sink so it is not getting full. frances is able to undo the air trap on the bottom of the sink so the drain directly discharges in her container. when she goes to pour the water into the toilet about as much from the sink splashes directly on the floor, but the recycle in the sink is quickly exhausted. with the sink now silent, she is able to bail some of the water from the floor into the toilet, but gradually the excess water lowers and is finally gone. the misfortunate woman sobs in the corner of the room while frances tidies up after the deluge. strangely she notices that floor is littered with fragments of torn black plastic bits that had floated on the water. and where did much of the floor water go? she had not bailed nearly enough and there is no open drain set into the floor anywhere that she can see. the pattern of plastic flotsam seems to indicate that the water had drained away at the juncture where the wall meets the floor. this is very strange. the seam where the wall comes to the floor seems to be a solid juncture and yet the overflow of water escaped the room there. there are even a few trickles still flowing through. frances puts her hand to the place and is surprised to find that her fingers go through the wall like it is just some illusion. the palm of her hand does find a soft solid feel to the wall just upward, but when she grips it and pulls up the barrier stretches upwards to enlarge the gap with the floor. with both hands and several good tugs, she is able to make an opening large enough for to push her head and shoulders on through to the other side. beyond the wall is a startling open world with a silver gray sky and a horizon that extends off indefinitely in all directions from the backside of the bathroom wall. there is no sun in the sky, just uniform bright illumination from all directions, casting only a few short shadows uniformly everywhere. the landscape is completely covered as far as the eye can see with debris and washed up items like a beach after a hurricane. frances pulls herself completely through the opening into the new world. coming through, fran stands up for a better view. immediately she notices that there are a few dead bodies mixed in with the debris, but they have a dried mummified look, no smell of corruption as from the recently deceased. most of the litter seems to be fabric in various shades of white but with a mixture of darker solid bits and even a rare fragment of bright commercial colors. a little distance away the colors reverse in an irregular island of dark shades of black like the fabric of tuxedos. these streaks of solid dark continue as far as the eye can see like a chain of islands on an otherwise sea of white. at last! fran's heart rejoices: an unregulated place, a place that is neither public nor private. a place to escape the strictures of totalitarian government and the repressive hand of politics and common interest. an uncommon borderland where resistance can breed and organize and the completely misfit can flee away to the horizon, never coming back like mountain men did when there was an open frontier beyond the edges of tamed civilized farmlands. the misfortunate woman has led us to a great destiny. =( awake at 05:50. i have a number of associations with this dream that come to mind. i notice that this is the second egoless dream recently and usually these are quite rare. most dreams center on myself so i am the central actor and things happen to me, i see things from a personal perspective. in this dream i see the two women as if from camera angles like a film, but i am not involved nor influence the action. frances barrineau is a friend of mine who lives now in virginia, her husband and i having met sixteen years ago when i first came to pensacola. she has been in my dreams once in a while, often remote from myself like this. i do not recognize the misfortunate woman at all. the feeling of escape from repressive government was similar to the expression in the movie _v for vendetta_ which we watched last night, but a step more subtle like our politics are now with economic concerns pressing us into the mold rather than extravagant nazi regimes formed from catastrophic circumstance. it seems to me that we do need a clear constitutional definition of the important distinction between public and private spaces which is at the heart of governance. libertarians recently have been concerned with limiting government surveillance of activities that happen in public spaces like street corners or airports. this is wrong headed. by definition public spaces should be available for anyone to view and use the data from such in any way. indeed, we all benefit from open access to public resources, that is where our laws apply. but people also claim a need for privacy and some say this is a natural right expected by default, not a privilege licensed by the state. but private spaces have to be partitioned off from public domain and what can go on within them is somewhat regulated. much of our happiness comes from use of this privacy, and much misery can be inflicted when the restrictions become too heavy handed. privacy does seem to work like a licensed privilege rather than a natural right. prisoners can be expected to live with none, which is one of their main punishments. this dream seems to underscore that it is the unregulated spaces that are neither public nor private which serve us as a safety valve for the overflow which can not be contained by constant recycling. one of the most basic duties of government is to survey and mark its space. the universe is such that there will always be much more unregulated space than has been claimed for regular use, but we have lost access to the frontier since it so expensive to get off the planet. all of the available usable space has been claimed and this gives our governments and laws a repressive totalitarian nature from which some of us yearn to escape. )= -- . although fate may defeat the efforts of virtue to avert misfortune, === it cannot deprive us of the power to endure it with equanimity. | | -- plutarch, gaius gracchus 19 --- stankuli@etherways.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o DreamRePlay David Jenkins, PhD The Dream as an Archeological Dig o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The dream you tell is rarely the dream you dreamed. By the time you tell your dream to another person, your dream has passed through several stages. If you carefully examine the process, you’ll see that a number of layers, almost archeological layers, have gone into constructing the dream. Reconstructing these layers can change your understanding of the dream. Sadie’s Dream I dream that I go into my living room. I see my desk, but nothing is on it. I know that my boyfriend has stolen the computer that was there. Sadie and her ex-boyfriend had broken up recently, and he had taken a number of items without Sadie’s consent. So it was no surprise that Sadie was certain this dream was about how the ex had ripped her off. However, when I asked Sadie to recall the dream as it had originally occurred, Sadie realized that she only saw a bare desk in a room. The room felt like her living room, but nothing about the room corresponded to her waking-life living room, and she had never seen that particular desk before. As we pondered the fact that her ex was not actually in the dream, Sadie realized she had jumped from that simple setting to the idea of her boyfriend stealing from her. It was as though her thought processes went like this: “This is a room. It is a living room. It must be mine. It is mine. There is a desk. There is nothing on the desk. There ought to be something on this desk. There ought to be a computer on the desk. The computer must have been stolen. My ex must have stolen it.” When she first told me the dream, it seemed to be a fact that her ex had stolen the computer. Now we were aware that we didn't know that anything had been stolen. From seeing how she initially understood her dream, Sadie realized that, since the break up, whenever anything went wrong in her life, she tended to blame it on her ex. Peeling off the Layers Like an archeologist at a dig, you discover that your experience of the dream occurs at several different levels: 1. You experience the dream while you’re in it, using your senses. 2. You make connections and explanations during the dream. 3. As you wake up, you achieve some distance from the dream and revise your assessments. 4. When you tell the dream to someone else, or write it down, you add explanations or take parts out to communicate what was important to you or to make sense of things you cannot explain. With practice, you can separate out these stages (this list is not fixed, you may find others). The understanding of the process can radically revise your assessment. What had appeared as a fact­her boyfriend stealing the computer--then was seen as an invention in her own mind. Sadie had made a brilliant discovery: Her ex was now a convenient scapegoat. An Example--Christine's Dream I dream that I see my father in a green raincoat. He is coming to protect me because I am in danger. When I asked Christine what she actually saw in the dream, she realized that she saw a figure in a green coat. The green of the coat reminded her of the raincoat her father wore when she was in junior high school. That's how she "knew" it was her father. Knowing that it was her father made her feel a sense of safety, which then made her feel she must be in some danger. The concept that safety and danger went together was a fascinating insight for Christine. Try an Experiment With your next dream, write it down in your usual way and then go through each part of the dream and ask yourself how you know that fact. You will write with certainty that some things actually occurred during the dream. But when you go back to examine those statements closely, observe where, during the dream, you made something up to explain what actually happened. Then consider how you might have added to the dream when you woke up and told it to yourself. Finally, consider what you needed to add or change in order to communicate the dream to someone else or to write it in your journal. Summary All of these processes are a natural part of dream telling but sometimes we are more creative than is necessary. Your mind will always naturally fill in the important blanks and create a more coherent story. The gift of reconstructing the dream is that, when you become aware of these different “layers” of the dream, you create the ability to jump out of the assumptions you are automatically jumping into. DREAM ANALYSIS BY TELEPHONE A phone consultation is a great way to begin your exploration of dream work. It is also perfect when you don’t have the time to attend a regular class but want to discuss a particular dream. David is available for dream consultations by phone. The current cost is $50 per hour. A typical dream analysis might consist of a 30-45 minute discussion of the dream and a follow up after the next dream. David’s hours for telephone consultations are Monday through Friday, 10 am to 7 pm, Pacific Time. To make an appointment, please email him with two or three times when you are available and your phone number. He will e-mail you back with an appointment time, payment information and request a confirmation. David’s e-mail address is davidj@dreamreplay.com SHARE DREAM OF THE WEEK If you enjoy reading Dream of the Week, please tell your friends about it. They can read back issues and subscribe (free) at DreamOfTheWeek.com. David Jenkins Dream RePlay email: davidj@dreamreplay.com web: http://dreamreplay.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From the Dream Section editor Kat Peters-Midland : This month we’re featuring a short dream section with dreams with dreamers enjoying while watching a statue of Jesus crying blood, talking with a dead father, acting in a movie, and searching for a friend. Dream title: none given Dream date: often Dreamer name: Willing Dream text: I often dream of gratifying myself sexually, and not just from masturbation, even though that is usually how the dream begins. It almost always progresses to enjoying myself orally. I even feel myself in my mouth, and become quite excited as well as extremely erect, but I never feel sensation on my penis. Dream comments: This dream is a frequent dream. The places and circumstances are always different, but the core of the dream is usually the same. My dreams are very graphic, and I almost always dream in color. At times I even experience sensations. Anyway this particular dream does not offend me or make me feel guilty when I wake; instead I want to know why. Dream title: a nightmare Dream date: 8-26-06 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I dreamed that my brother was robbed and stabbed to death Dream comments: none Dream title: tears Dream date: 7/1/06, 8/24/06 Dreamer name: Jo Dream text: I’ve been having this reoccurring dream (nightmare actually) and it goes like this: I’m walking on a sidewalk in the street with someone I know (I don’t know who I don’t see the person I just feel them there next to me). We see this church and I'm supposed to go in it for some reason. The church is huge. It has really high beautiful ceilings and there are a lot of people and the seats are almost all filled. There are three sections, right, middle, and left. As I’m walking in with the person I know, and they are to my right. I pass a statue of a saint (a man) which is on my left, then a priest that I’m supposed to give a ticket to. He then tells us where to sit and it’s the middle row. There are people to left and right of us, back and front. Now right above to the front of us there is a stage with an altar and three priests. Left, right and center. The one on the left and right are both sitting on beautiful chairs. Above them is a huge statue of Jesus on a cross. It’s really high up. I start thinking these horrible thoughts which in my dream I enjoy. I’m thinking about Jesus crying. Then all of a sudden blood starts to flow from his eyes on everyone and I’m enjoying this. I’m smiling. Everyone is crying and screaming trying to move out of the way while some are sitting in amazement. Then the priest on the right looks at me and says he knows I did it and that I’m a sinner and a horrible person. I’m in shock that he knows and I feel horrible inside. When I look up, it looks like there is someone above, I think it is a girl and she’s moving and speaking erratically. Her hair is matted. And there’s hay up there. It kind of looks like the top part of a theater. Dream comments: When I wake up, I’m really scared and I cannot sleep. I keep thinking I’m a horrible person and that I could never go to church. I’m afraid it could happen. Until I fall back asleep then I’m logical again. Dream title: cheating Dream date: many times Dreamer name: moonlight Dream text: I have this continues dream that my husband is cheating on me. The most recent one is when I catch him in the act and I confront him and he admits to having sex with a beautiful women. Dream comments: I have never had any reason not to trust my husband I don't feel like he is cheating on me but it is really starting to bother me that I have had this dream more than once. Dream title: My Dad and my Death Dream date: 8.23.06 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: My father, who I was incredibly close with passed away July 6th,2006, the day after my birthday. In my dream, I don't know how, but I died. I just fell in a hole and it took me to heaven. I was very excited because I knew this meant I could see my dad. So in my dream, you have to wait on a line so you can get into heaven and I was looking for my dad. I look across the way and I see my dad in the line to see me. We hung out and talked and whatever we always did. Then I went to the front desk in heaven and said "I shouldn't be dead - my father just died, my sister is so sick she can die, my grandpa is dying, and I need to be alive." All this is true in waking life. So the lady told me I had to play this game so I can be alive again. I won so they told me to say goodbye to my dad before I was alive again. I said goodbye to him and gave him this speech, how I love him so much, he is always everything to me, and I miss him so much, and how amazing it was to see him again even though we won't see each other for a while. We hugged then I woke up. Dream comments: I am a 15 year old girl who did anything for my father. He and I were incredibly close. He was very sick but I was going to move in with him and take care of him because I don't get along with my mom or sister. Dream title: tidal wave Dream date: august 22 Dreamer name: ohya Dream text: We were on the seashore....there was a little house, my friend’s house (someone I don’t recognize). We were talking at first, and then I saw the seawater rising up to the house. At first was just a little water, and then I wondered why the seawater took a long time and it’s not coming. We were running here and there and the tidal wave came. When it was over, I didn’t see any dead people but I saw black and white snake, a seawater snake, just passing through. It didn’t kill anybody. Dream comments: I’m afraid of what is this dream means. Dream title: Bread Knife Dream date: August 14 2006 Dreamer name: kouse Dream text: I go to this house. I see my father, who is now deceased, sitting in the front yard. I approach this house which has a sliding glass door. I knock and open the sliding glass door. I see in the back of the house a young woman. She has short dark hair. I ask her is she or the lady of the house has a bread knife. I may have been going from one house to another, trying to find a bread knife. The woman at this house does not have a bread knife. Dream comments: From the direction in the dream I can tell the setting is in the direction of Richmond where my girlfriend lives. The first thing that comes to my mind regarding my father is the fact that he was unfaithful to my mother. He died at the home of the paramour. The young woman in the back of the house reminds me of the new wife of my son. Dream title: none given Dream date: no date given Dreamer name: Anonymous Dream text: I was acting in a movie. We were going on Christmas break. I was talking to another actor, we were discussing the duration of the filming left after break. I told him my part wasn't that much more involved, so mine wouldn't take that long, he was somewhat concerned about his I think it was going to go longer than he wanted it to. We all started to leave and I was in a large dark parking garage looking place. It started raining and I became concerned about flooding. Then I was at a Christmas party. Bill Clinton was there. He and I were having a tryst but we were playing it cool at the party. I'd already given him his gift, something really nice. What he gave me at the party was a package of panty hose. They were specially made to keep your legs warmer but still ... pantyhose! I guess I milled around the party a while then came home, which was to a red brick building off a small city street. I needed something from the store, and it was morning. I was wearing a white cotton nightdress I have; it's long and kind of frilly. I quickly looked for shoes to put on and the first pair I found was a pair of green pumps that some puppies of ours chewed up ages ago, except in the dream they were intact. I slipped them on, and walked out the door and up the sidewalk; the store was about a block away. I was walking in my nightdress and green pumps, no robe down the sidewalk. And a convertible pulled up beside me. Inside was Richard Simmons. He knew me and told me to get in and he'd take me to the store. He started ragging on me about my weight. I told him I was doing really well on my program and I've lost weight and he lightened up, then I woke up. Dream title: White Limos Dream date: 8/08/06 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: It was my cousin's wedding - it was in a big stadium, they were a hundred of people there. Then white limos started coming out. (I have never seen limos like them and I can’t even describe them.... because they were beautiful and incredible). Then when I looked at one of them it had a big drawing or design, it was an Elephant design. I never saw my cousin in the dream, but I sure never seen so many incredible limos in one wedding. It was like 10 or more of them. Dream comments: I recently had to go to Puerto Rico because my dad was very sick and had an emergency operation on his leg. They have to amputate his left leg. But the day before the operation, I had this strange dream. And by the way my Dad is doing great!! Dream title: Searching Dream date: August 22nd 2006 Dreamer name: anonymous Dream text: I am in class. I think it's supposed to be high school. It's the last class of the day and I have an urge to find someone. I keep trying to get out of class early so I can go outside and look for the person to come out, but I get held back. When I get outside, all the students are out there and I am searching desperately for my friend. I see another friend and beg and plead for them to tell me where the person is. They try to refuse but somehow, I end up getting them to agree. He shows me another portion of the 'school.' But this part is more like a large house. It has hidden rooms and secret doors and hallways. After running around through many different doors and rooms, I find a secret hall that leads to a room. The person I'm looking for is there! He smiles at me, and just as I am about to reach out to him, someone comes up behind me and pulls me away. Then I wake up. Dream comments: All the walls in the school and the house are brown wood paneling. The person I am searching for is an old friend from my waking life that I haven't talked to in many years. So is the person who shows me the house. Most often, the person pulling me away from my friend in the end is my own mom. This is a recurring dream. Sometimes the location changes, but I have been having dreams where at least some portion of it is devoted to searching for this same person, over and over again for about two weeks now. I haven't spoken to this person in several years. I'm not even sure if he still lives near me. Stan Kulikowski II DATE : 1 sep 2006 08:17 DREAM : dharma displacement =( yesterday was a thursday, a rather uneventful day. i tested my powerbook computer and found out that the lightning strike a couple weeks ago took out about all of the peripheral inputs on it. it is surprising that the operating system and harddisk appear normal while not one of the ethernet, airport, usb or firewire connectors work anymore. it will probably cost more than the computer is worth to send it away for repairs but i can not afford to just buy a new one. i got to bed at the usual time, around 00:30 and got to sleep without any effort. )= i am awake somewhat early today, a little before dawn, and i have come out to lester's farm to help with bringing in the hay. the morning is clear and promises to be hot and dry, just the kind of day that is good for haying. i go into the barn, still cool from the night but there is just enough of that gray predawn light so i do not need to turn on lights to get about. there are only a few bales of hay left over from last season scattered about the bottom of the hay mow inside the barn. i should throw these last bales down through the trap into the feed lot so i can sweep out the bottom of the mow so to prepare it for the new stacks of bales we will put in later today. lester usually hires a few local teenage boys to help with the haying. they walk along the fields behind the baler to toss the bales up onto the wagons which are pulled by the tractors. i almost always work in the barn, taking the bales off the wagons and stacking them in the mow. this is a little more technical task than the field work as the bales have to be distributed right to spread their weight evenly across the floor. i am good at this mainly because i can tolerate the intense heat at the end of the day when the hay stack fills the mow and the last few bales have to be carefully stashed just under the rafters at the top of the barn. it is really hot up there with the sun beating down on the roof and those rafters contain wasp nests, bats and other manner of vermin to watch out for. once i have cleaned the floor of the mow, the sun is just rising outside. i decide that i will jump down into the feedlot through the dharma to enjoy the new fresh light of the dawn. the dharma is what lester calls the small octagonal wooden frame structure that is attached to the back side of his barn. it is a feed trough to hold hay thrown down from the mow so the cattle can get to it in the small enclosed feedlot. it looks rather like a gazebo made from rough four by four timber with a slightly curled pagoda style roof to keep the rain off the feed. each of the eight sides has a curved arch at the top supporting its roof between its uprights. the few leftover bales i had thrown down from the mow are here, so i cut their binding twine with my pocket knife and spread the loose hay around for the cows to get. then i climb over the low neck rail to get out of the dharma. whoa. when i look around me, i get a shock. i am no longer in the feedlot behind the barn, but in an open field about three hundred meters away, across the road on the property of the adjacent farm. i can see the road, the lester's farmhouse just on the other side and the tall red barn beyond that. how did i get out here? the small wooden dharma is standing here next to me in the open field but no longer attached to the barn as it should be. even more extraordinary, there is a tall brick structure about 75 meters from me that has the same architecture of my wooden dharma, but the pale red bricks have an ancient corroded appearance, substantial flecks having fallen away from their exterior with age. this structure is about three stories high giving the appearance of having been stretched to its limit in the vertical. then i see the creature that this gigantic dharma was built to feed. i suppose you call it an elephant, a creature maybe twenty meters high with very long thick legs that taper down to improbable thin feet at the bottom. the torso of animal is about the right size for an elephant but it is perched up there on top of the legs which have thick bands regularly spaced upon them every couple meters. a long serpentine truck reaches down almost to the ground. its skin is a gray black textured with many cracks like a bark. the monstrous elephant is moving very slowly towards its brick dharma. being so tall it has to take very small steps to keep from leaning off center and losing its balance. if i hurry i can get to the brick dharma before it does which i know is somehow attached to lester's barn just like the small wooden one is. i walk as quickly as i can, thinking that if i just break out to run i might disturb the otherwise leisurely pace of the elephant towards its destination. i am worried that with its long trunk, it can reach through into the barn and might take things it should not. just as i get to the brick dharma i see a small baby wearing a diaper crawl inside and briefly vanish. i believe it has gotten over to the barn, but it soon pops back into this side. going inside i pick up the baby. in its hands it has three dollar bills, old and wrinkled. these should have been hundreds, not singles. the huge mass of the walking elephant fills the background behind me as i step through the octagonal wall that should attach to the barn so me and the baby are instantly back inside the barn. "now where did you find this money?" i ask the baby, not expecting an answer. lester usually leaves a few hundred dollars in a tin by the wall to pay the temporary hired hands each day, but the tin is not there. i put the baby into a small crib that has been built into the wall as i see lester coming in, still eating his last bit of breakfast toast in his hand. "what is with that dharma which connects to someplace else?" i ask him as he puts the last of his toast into his mouth. "when i was younger, i wrote something about it." he tells me. i seem to remember seeing a few books with his name on them in the attic of the farmhouse but i had never been invited to read them. "it was after i published my studies of the flying horses from india." =( awake at 08:05. lester studebaker was my father-in-law when i was married to janet back in ohio. he did live the small white farmhouse with the red barn on the corner of two country roads that i saw in this dream. i did help him with the haying in the barn for a couple seasons which was short term summer labor that i rather enjoyed for a few days. working in the barn was better than the walking in the fields because each bale had to be thrown upwards over your head onto the wagon. working in the barn unstacking the wagons, each bale was tossed down onto the conveyer belt which was much easier. not being raised on farm work, i was never that strong in the arms, but i was tolerant of heat and dust and the curious vermin in the rafters. i would never be awake in a morning before lester who always was up well before the sun. i know the term 'dharma' is some word from indian philosophy but i do not recall what it means, and i am pretty certain it is not a gazebo shaped structure. i have no idea how it might apply here or what is the purpose of that huge elephant with its rather mild sense of threat. )= -- ------------------ END DREAM SECTION ------------------ -------------------- END ISSUE ----------------- -===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===- =---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---= ELECTRIC DREAMS ACCESS INFORMATION =---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---= -===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===- Subscriptions: The Electric Dreams E-zine (issn 1089 4284) is *free* and distributed via email about once a month. 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