E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Subscribe: electric-dreams-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: electric-dreams-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Subscribe Online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o E.l.e.c.t.r.i.c D.r.e.a.m.s Volume #11 Issue #4 April 2004 ISSN# 1089 4284 o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Download a cover for this issue: http://tinyurl.com/3dm3o o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o C O N T E N T S ++ Editor's Notes ++ News: Global Dreaming News Returns ++ Column: An Excerpt From the Lucid Dream Exchange Ben Kidd's Transformational Dreaming Lucy Gillis ++ Article: Gestalt Dialogue with the Inner Critic and the Inner Child Linda Lane Magallón ++ Column: The View from the Bridge Spain 1103 Jean Campbell ++ Column: The Waves: Galactic Waves: Dreaming with the Trees Galactic Moon. White Spectral Wizard Yea Nick Cumbo +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++ DREAM SECTION: Dreams from February and March, 2004 Host: Elizabeth Westlake XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX D E A D L I N E : April 14th deadline for May 2004 submissions XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Post Dreams and Comments on Dreams to: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Send Dreaming News and Calendar Events to: Peggy Coats Send Articles and Subscription concerns to: Richard Wilkerson: o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Editor's Notes o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Welcome to the April 2004 issue of Electric Dreams, your portal to dreams and dreamwork online. If you are new to dreams and dreamwork, please join us on dreamchatters@yahoogroups.com and we will guide you to the resources & groups you need. To join send an e to dreamchatters-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Here are some of the articles and columns featured this month: "In a way I feel that the nightmares gave me the beautiful gift of lucid dreaming. That without the adversity they provided, I would not have reached for such a powerful technique as lucid dreaming." -- Ben Kidd -- Lucy Gillis shares travels around the dream world to find the most talented and experimental lucid dreamers. In an excerpt from the her Lucid Dream Exchange, Ben Kidd show how he used lucidity to change the horror of his nightmares to something more productive. Be sure to read this excerpt from the Lucid Dream Exchange. "Everything in the dream is a part of you," states the very popular Gestalt theory of dreamwork. Linda Lane Magallón, author of _Mutual Dreaming_, explores how this technique rolls out on the dream carpet of everyday dreaming. Be sure to read "Gestalt Dialogue with the Inner Critic and the Inner Child." Spain 1103. What can we do as dreamers? Jean Campbell brings you up to date on the dream activism group, the World Dreams Peace Bridge and how we can use dreams to bridge the gap between many different groups and cultures and reach out to those in pain. Nick Cumbo newsletter and column reports on the dream explorations of the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself.' This month you can learn about the 'Dreaming with the Trees' Project. Learn also how to use your dreams and mutual dreams to improve the world. The Global Dreaming News comes from Peggy Coats at Dreamtree.com and will update you on current dream events. If you have news for our Global Dreaming News, send that to Peggy Coats at: info@dreamtree.com Darth Vader, lost in the forest, voices in the night, are you going mad? No, its just the Electric Dreams Dreams Section! Our Dream Section is edited each month by Elizabeth Westlake. If you have dreams you want published enter them anonymously in the form at: http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple Or you can put them in the dream flow directly by subscribing to: dream-flow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -------------------- For those of you who are new to dreams and dreaming, be sure to stop by one of the many resources: http://www.dreamtree.com http://www.dreamgate.com/electric-dreams http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/library Electric Dreams in PDF: (thanks to Nick Cumbo) http://www.dreamofpeace.net/community/electricdreams/ -------------------- Tooting my own horn: Thanks to the ASD Board of Directors for the presentation of the Certificate of Appreciation I received last week. I was very moved and felt all warm and fuzzy. http://www.dreamgate.com/2004_ASD_appreciation.htm See you all in May, -Richard Wilkerson /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S April 2004 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< If you have news you'd like to share, contact Peggy Coats, web@dreamtree.com. Visit Global Dreaming News online at http://www.dreamtree.com/ This Month's Features: NEWS - PSI Angels Await You - Introductory Dream Retreat with Jeremy Taylor - ASD Regional in Pittsburgh, PA - Drop-in Dream Group, Berkeley, CA - More Lucid Dreaming Group RESEARCH & REQUESTS - Creative Lucid Dreamers Wanted - WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES - Magikimages DREAM CALENDAR FOR APRIL 2004 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< N E W S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> Psi Angels Await You Psi Angels are now featured on ASD's Online Auction and are standing by to help you. This exciting program was developed by Harry Bosma. To receive the benefits offered by the Psi Angels, go to the ASD Online Auction at www.asdreams.org/auction/ You'll be enriched. The Psi Angels await you. >>> Introductory Dreamwork Retreat with Jeremy Taylor April 30-May 2, 2004 Work with world-renowned dreamworker/author in peaceful surroundings of Sunrise Ranch. Includes support sessions for nurturing body and soul; yoga, astrology, tarot and aura photography. Intermediate weekend Sept. 17-19,2004; attend one or both. Cost: $125 (prior to 2/29) + accommodations Sunrise Ranch, Loveland, Colorado. Contact: Billie Ortiz 303-929-6122 wakeuptoyourdreams@earthlink.net >>> ASD Regional in Pittsburgh coming up in November 2004 "Dreams, Art and Healing" will be the theme of a weekend regional to be held in Pittsburgh, PA from Nov. 19-21, 2004. The Society for Contemporary Craft there is planning an exhibit of dream based art to run from September through January, and the ASD regional will be held at the gallery. Plans are underway for performing arts, studio classes and a film screening, as well as workshops on dreams and grief and on using dream imagery in healing visualizations for cancer patients. Pittsburgh is in western Pennsylvania, 2-3 hours from Cleveland; 3 hours from Columbus; 3-4 hours from Buffalo; 5 hours from Washington D.C., Cincinnati and Philadelphia; and 6-7 hours from NYC. For more information, e-mail cpearson@nauticom.net. >>>Drop-In Dream Group, Berkeley, CA DREAMS: WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR? ANSWER: Getting clear on love, family, relationships, career, spiritual path and anything you wish to work on. Solving problems in your sleep. Answering the questions you haven't yet asked. AND ESPECIALLY: You can stop nightmares and recurring dreams typically in 1 - 3 sessions. THE CLASS: Find out for yourself: How to look at your own dreams, hear what they have to say & feel your way through to the meaning or a resolution. We work with partners in structured exercises sharing our dreams. Some people will get to work with their dream in front of the group. COST: $10/class ME: David Jenkins. I'm a Ph.D. with a dream practice. In my unhumble opinion, your dreams are more exciting & more original than most of the films from Hollywood. WHERE: Class meets in downtown Berkeley. Near BART at 2199 Bancroft Way at the corner of Fulton Street. (Upstairs in Aperio: "fun, eclectic, and affordable gifts for all occasions") WHEN: Saturday Mornings. 10am – noon. REGISTER: email davidj@practicaldreamwork.com or call 510 644 2369 WEB: http://www.practicaldreamwork.com THE POINT? The goal is for you to get the idea of how to work & play with your own dreams. CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR DREAMS? Keep a notebook by the side of your bed. Before you get up in the morning (before you get out of bed even), write down whatever is in your head. Whatever it is: "Coffee", "Late", "Feed the cat", "Call mother" etc. Whatever it is, write it down. >>>> Third More Lucid Dreams group Starts April 10 The third More Lucid Dreams (MLD)group starts Saturday, April 10, and will run for five weeks. A modest fee of $25 is charged. Free seats are available for students, residents of low income countries, divorced mothers on low income, and everyone else who feels eligible. For more information and endorsements, please visit: http://alquinte.com/en/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< R E S E A R C H & R E Q U E S T S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> Creative Lucid Dreamers Needed To all lucid dreaming writers and artists -- I am a PhD researcher with the University of Leeds, England, investigating the link between lucid dreaming and the creative imagination. I am looking for lucid dreamers who have produced some form of creative work to a professional standard, e.g. a published novel or short story, or an exhibition of paintings or sculptures. If you fit into this category and would be willing to help me with my research, please email me on PhDcasestudies@hotmail.com and I will send you a research questionnaire. I'll be asking you for your opinion on the possibilities of lucid dreaming as a creative tool, its effectiveness in dissolving blocks, and its value as a source of inspiration in the creative arts. Thank you very much for your help. Clare Johnson <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< W E B S I T E & O N L I N E U P D A T E S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> Magikimages – Dream Paintings by Helene Bied http://magikimage.lenagraph.com Helene is a French artist living in Santa Cruz, California. Her artwork is a lot about dreams and about the unconscious dressed in colors and emotions painted in all kind of shapes talking back to her. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< D R E A M C A L E N D A R <<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||||||>>>>>>>>>>>|||||<<<<<<<<<<<< Apr 3-4, San Jose, CA Tarot for Dreamers, with Robert Moss. For more information and registration: Contact Suzette, suzette@spirits- seeing.com; tel 408-476-7893 Apr 10, Online The third More Lucid Dreams (MLD)group will run for five weeks. A modest fee of $25 is charged.. For more information please visit: http://alquinte.com/en/ Apr 17-18, Wakefield, RI Dreaming to Heal your Life, weekend workshop with Robert Moss. Information: All That Matters (401) 782-2126, www.allthatmatters.com Apr 30-May 2, Loveland, CO Introductory Dreamwork Retreat with Jeremy Taylor Includes support sessions for nurturing body and soul; yoga, astrology, tarot and aura photography. Sunrise Ranch, Loveland, Colorado. Contact: Billie Ortiz 303-929-6122 wakeuptoyourdreams@earthlink.net o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o An Excerpt From The Lucid Dream Exchange By Lucy Gillis o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o "In a way I feel that the nightmares gave me the beautiful gift of lucid dreaming. That without the adversity they provided, I would not have reached for such a powerful technique as lucid dreaming." Ben Kidd Ben Kidd has experienced nightmares from time to time throughout his life. Remarkably, he taught himself to realize when he was dreaming - and to use his lucidity to change his nightmares - at a very early age. He shares his inspirational story in the current issue of LDE (Number 30). NIGHTMARES AND LUCID DREAMS (c) 2004 Ben Kidd Sydney, Australia. I have had many nightmares that I have overcome by lucid dreaming. In fact, my lucid dreaming started that way. My lucid dreaming was initiated by a recurring nightmare that I had between the ages of about 3 and 4. From there, many of my lucid dreams were invoked during a nightmare, and were the avenue to end them. This occurred into my twenties, and can still occur today (my thirties), although the nightmares are much weaker than they once were. FIRST RECURRING NIGHTMARE 1975 (three years old): The Dungeon (all occurrences pre reaching lucidity, about 8 times in total): I am out the back of my house, playing. I accidentally drop my red woollen gloves on to the paving bricks near a storm water drain. I try to pick them up, but when I try to, I accidentally push them partially into the drain. So I get on my knees to get closer. Again I knock them further into the drain. I lie on my chest, and reach down to grab them. I knock them into the drain, and I fall in after them. I find myself in a dungeon-like place. There are two rooms joined by an escalator. On the escalator are my family, and my extended family. The upper room is dimly lit. About thirty pairs of forearms reach out of the floor. The beings they belong to are imprisoned in the ground. They reach out to try to grab my legs, and pull me into the ground. This scares me greatly, so I go down the escalator to the lower room. I enter the lower room, which is pitch dark. I can't see my own hand in front of my face. The darkness excites my fear until I am petrified. Once I cannot handle it any more, I get back to the top room. I go back and forth between the rooms each time I can't stand the current room. I wake up terrified. MY FIRST LUCID DREAM 1976 (four years old): The Dungeon and the Banished Witch: The recurring nightmare starts and continues as it always has. This time however, it changes. I am determined to end the nightmare. When I am in the upstairs room, after going up and down a few times, I decide to end it. This is where I become lucid. I realise that I am dreaming, and so I call forth the witch that has imprisoned me. She appears instantly. She is wearing a long black robe, had a pointy black hat, is floating on a broom, and even has a large wart on her nose. I tell her that she has no right to imprison me here, and directly order her to set me free. Instantly she disappears, and I appear in my back yard, with my red gloves at my feet. I pick them up, and the dream ends. I never had that dream ever again. I wake up feeling empowered, that I have control over my destiny. MY SECOND RECURRING NIGHTMARE 1976 (four years old): The Dungeon Behind the Cupboard (had twice or three times) I am walking to school in my dream. It is dusk, which seems strange. There is a small building at my school which doesn't exist in real life. It's about the size of a toll booth. I go into the room, and find a cupboard. The cupboard is against the back wall of the room, which backs onto the playground (i.e., there is open space behind the wardrobe's wall). The wardrobe slides across, to reveal a hole in the wall that leads to a dark warehouse. I am drawn into the warehouse. I am scared in the warehouse, as it is dark, large, and I cant find my way out. I wake up feeling scared. MY SECOND LUCID DREAM 1976 (4 years old): The Dungeon Behind the Cupboard is Vanquished. I am dreaming. I decide that I will not let this recent nightmare get on top of me like my first one did. So I purposefully walk to school. When I get there the small building is there as expected. I go inside to find the cupboard. I walk straight up to the cupboard and push it across. I find the hole in the wall, and the large space behind it. I make my intentions to rid my dream of this nightmare strong in my mind, and walk into the dark area behind the cupboard. I find it lighter than last time. I have a look around, finding old school desks, dusty chairs, clocks and the like. I find that it is not scary at all, rather an old dusty place. I overcome my fear of the place, and leave it. Once I have left, I look behind the cupboard, and can no longer see the hole that leads to the large dark place. I wake up feeling empowered. VIOLENT NIGHTMARE ENDED BY LUCID DREAMING 1990 (18 years old): The Giant Axeman I am in the country. It is dry, with low brown grass, open fields, and wire fencing. There is a dirt road. I am in a house with a friend. There is a rowing boat (an eight) outside on trestles (to hold it up off the ground). A car pulls up out the front. Four men get out of the car. The have axes. One of them walks up to the boat and rocks it until it falls to the ground causing much damage. They leave, for now. I am feeling distressed by this. I am wondering how I can defend myself, and notice two axes in the house. My friend and I grab the axes to defend ourselves. The car pulls up again. Again, it has the same four men in it, but there is also a giant man, about 8 feet tall. He too has an axe. They start walking towards the house. I am getting terrified by now, and so I am wondering what have I done to deserve this? The men approach and enter the house. I am still thinking, why do I deserve this? What have I done? The giant slowly walks towards me with his axe. I realise I must defeat him, or I will die. I suddenly realise that I don't deserve this. That I haven't done anything wrong. I then realise that I am dreaming. A triumphant feeling follows, where I realise I can make the walls fall outwards allowing my escape. However, I am still too close to this giant, and worried, so I take my axe and hit him again and again with it in the chest trying to stop him. The huge emotion associated with this stops my dream. I feel relieved to have gotten out of the nightmare, and empowered that I have had a lucid dream, but disappointed that I ended it in a violent way rather than a supernatural way. NIGHTMARE NEARLY ENDED BY LUCID DREAM 1992 (20 years old) Rolling the Paddle Steamer onto the Beach In the dream I am on the deck of a paddle steamer. The paddle steamer happens to be steaming along a footpath that runs along a long beach. The paddle steamer approaches a left hand turn, about 45 degrees. As it turns the corner it rolls over onto it's side. It is now lying on the beach. I realise that I am in trouble. There is a lot of financial damage to the vessel, and they are holding me accountable. However I realise that I wasn't driving the boat, so I realise that it's not my fault. I then realise that I am dreaming! Such relief! It's not my fault. Then, amusingly, I manage to convince myself that it's not a dream after all, and the nightmare continues until I awake. I wake up feeling a mix of frustration, and happiness with realising it was a dream. FALLING DREAMS TURNING INTO LUCID FALLING DREAMS TURNING INTO LUCID FLYING DREAMS During my childhood I've had many falling dreams. When I was 16 I fell off an 8 metre high cliff, where I found out that falling in a dream feels just like falling in real life, very scary. I'll move onto when things started to change. 1988 (16 years old) Feather Falling I am in a dream, on the beach. Out to sea is a large green skyscraper. I go out to the skyscraper, and climb to the top. Instead of having normal fire stairs, there is a large central stair well, with stairs running on all four sides. The stairwell has a central open area about 15 metres by 15 metres (45 feet by 45 feet). I start to walk down the stairs, and slip. I find myself falling through the air, and feel that classic falling feeling deep in my stomach. However, instead of plummeting to the ground, I am falling more like a feather, slowly, drifting. I land on a stairway clear across the gap at the centre of the stairs. I realise that this isn't normal, so I must be dreaming. I then practice this feather falling again and again, in the hope that I will remember this skill for future falling dreams. 1989 (17 years old) Lucid Falling I am on the top of an 8-storey building. I am not lucid. In the dream I approach the edge of the building. It is scarily tall. I fall off the edge. I land on the ground, but find I am not hurt in any way. I realise I am dreaming. I go to the top of another building, this time 10 storeys tall. I realise that I want to practice falling so that I can overcome my fear. I jump off the edge, and free fall to the ground. I land on my feet, but as I am falling so fast I end up very quickly in the squat position. The deceleration is so fast it scares me. I go to the top of another building. This time more like 20 storeys tall. The landing area is so small, I find it hard to see it. I jump off the building, and free fall. Again the landing is so fast that it's a bit of a shock, and wakes me up this time. I feel happy that I have started to overcome my fear of falling. FLYING OUT OF A NIGHTMARE 1994 (22 years old) Flying out of Adversity I am having a nightmare. I am being chased by an infinite number of criminals. They are trying to kill me. I have a gun though, which I am using to defend myself. The gun takes 6 very fat bullets. They are about as fat as a thick sausage. I am running. As I am running I am trying to load my gun. Once I get the sixth bullet in the gun, I close it up, and turn and fire. By this time there is one enemy at most 2 metres from me. I kill him, and five others that are very close. Then the running starts again. More running, more shooting, more running, more shooting. The whole time the same old thoughts come up. "What have I done to deserve this? What karma do I have that I deserve to be killed like this?" And so on. Eventually I have the realisation that I don't deserve that. I am not a murderer or criminal, and thus realise that I am dreaming! With this realisation I realise I have supernatural powers. I instantly fly upwards very fast. I reach orbit in a matter of seconds. The experience is so strong that I wake up. I feel incredibly energised by the dream. Not only because I became lucid, but because I have continued to get out of nightmares using lucid dreaming. FLYING MYSELF AND OTHERS OUT OF A LOW LEVEL NIGHTMARE 2003 (31 years old) Group Flight I am having a low-level nightmare (my nightmares are now generally like this, if they occur at all). I am in an outdoor setting. There is an island surrounded by a moat. There are a few bridges leading from the island in the middle to the land (bank) surrounding the moat. Each of the bridges had a landing in the middle on it's own smaller island that is located in the moat, not touching either the bank or the main island. There is a large crowd in a grandstand to one side. There is some sort of sport going on. However the sport is like chasey, and I am being chased. I am finding this situation uncomfortable, as I don't want to be chased. There is a group of three other people with me. I realise that I am dreaming. I am not sure what triggers that, but I expect it is the usual understanding that I don't deserve to be chased like this, as has happened many times before. I decide that I want to get off the main island to the bank on the other side. I want to take my three friends with me, as I am protecting them. So I decide to fly myself and them off the island. I will myself and them into the air. There is no physical contact between the three of us. As I fly over the bridge, I notice that it rises up and down as it heads across the moat. I find that as I reach a high point, and start to fly over the low point, that I and the three other people start to fall towards the bridge. I remember that the fear itself will cause this to happen, so I strengthen my resolve, and continue to fly to the other side. We land safely, and the dream ends. I awake greatly charged and excited. It's the first time I have made others fly with me just using my will. COMMON THEME I find that the common thing that initiates a lucid dream in a nightmare is my intrinsic understanding that I don't deserve the bad events that are occurring to me; that I haven't done something horrible that has brought it upon myself. This seems to bring up "justified anger" towards the situation. This results in a very strong resolve to end the situation, crossed with the innate knowledge that I can end the situation by my will alone. I end up like a bulletproof superhero. I feel that this result is partly created through my waking life, where I feel unsatisfied with being stuck at night in nightmares (first learnt from the recurring nightmares of my early years). I find that if I convert the dissatisfaction into a challenge to reject the nightmare, and carry that resolve with me to strengthen it, that the chances of me overcoming a nightmare by lucid means are greatly increased. This effect snowballs. After I first beat the nightmare when I was four years old, it made it easier to repeat that when I was five, and so on. Now I find that the power of my nightmares are greatly diminished, as I know that I can beat them with will alone. In a way I feel that the nightmares gave me the beautiful gift of lucid dreaming. That without the adversity they provided, I would not have reached for such a powerful technique as lucid dreaming. As the Buddhist saying goes (approximately), rubbing a block of rough wood with silk will not smooth it, rubbing it with sandpaper will. ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com ******************************** The Lucid Dream Exchange is a quarterly newsletter featuring lucid dreams and lucid dream related articles and interviews. To subscribe to The Lucid Dream Exchange send a blank email to: TheLucidDreamExchange-subscribe@yahoogroups.com You can also check us out at www.dreaminglucid.com o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Gestalt Dialogue with the Inner Critic and the Inner Child © 2004 Linda Lane Magallón o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o "Everything in the dream is a part of you," states the very popular Gestalt theory of dreamwork. You are encouraged to seat yourself down on a pillow and begin to act out or speak the part of every element in the dream. Imaginatively, you "become" the self in the dream. You look out at the world through her eyes; see from her perspective. You feel as she feels. You judge dream events from her point of view. You express her opinions, not yours. You take an empathetic trip to another side of self; the self who lives in the dream. You also "become" the background scenery, the props, the characters in the dream play. You are the horse and the soldier and even the color of the sunrise. All these pieces are supposed to form the "whole" of the dream. That's the theory. But if I speak as the mountain range or the morning dew, I speak a monologue. And the fact of the matter is that some of my grumpier dream elements don't much like to talk! On the other hand, a self-absorbed tulip may talk forever, never once referring to other elements in the dream. So I end the session feeling fragmented. There's no ready glue to paste the pieces back together. That's why I like Gestalt dialogue. The glue is communication between characters. I find it especially useful to "become" the self in the dream and dialogue with others from that point of view. In this case, the stars of the show were dream characters rather than background or props. I considered who would be most verbal, put pen to paper and let them speak. Then, as my dreaming self, I responded. After the first group talked themselves into a mumble, I initiated a dialogue with some of the less loquacious characters. Afterwards, I re-read the dialogue and made some notes to myself. My dream concern was: who or what is fatiguing me, being a heavy burden, holding me down? ________________ DREAM I am pursued by reporters who want to interview me because I can fly. I fly around the hills surrounding my home, a single house in a large field, but feel heavy due to the pull of the reporters' expectations. (They keep following me, at least with their eyes). Coming back, I pick up my younger brother by the hand. For a while he flies Superman style like I do, but when he tires, I must carry him seated in my arms. This position weighs me down so I must land in back of the house. Once inside, the house opens into a school room. Third hand, I see myself go sit on a chair to be at the same level as the children who crowd around me. I smile, hold out my arms and talk with them. ________________ DIALOGUE Reporters: How do you fly? Can't you give us hints? Linda: I don't know-I just *do* it. R: What does it feel like? L: Great. Freeing. Happy. Ecstasy. R: Will you give us a ride? L: You would weigh me down-it's very tiring. Your demands pull me down. R: But it's our jobs to get the facts! We must get the information out to the people-it's their right to know. L: I want to help you-believe me I do-so you'll go away happy and leave me alone. I'd like to tell you, but I don't know how! R: Can we have your autograph? L: Uggh! Pester parasites. Can you tell me how I do it? R: We don't know-we just report the facts you give us. Give us the facts! L: I don't have them. R: But you can fly-we see you. L: If I can-so can you. R: Okay, how? L: I just will myself up into the air. I just choose to go. I project my thoughts in that direction. R: But we try and we can't! Tell us how! Let us come with you. L: No, no, you'll drag me down. R: It's no fair. L: You've got to find your own strength. R: If we can't do it, we'll be jealous, we'll drag you down, we'll criticize you. L: That's what I'm afraid of. Why is criticism and others' expectations able to drag me down? R: We pull you down to our level. If we can't, then neither will you. L: What would satisfy you? R: To get the information we came for. L: And if I don't have it? R: We'll stay until you do or we'll go away and call you a fake to the world. L: But I can fly! R: You fail to explain yourself. L: Must I? R: Yes. L: Why? R: We must have that information-it's our job. L: Don't you have other stories? R: If you don't tell us-you might tell others. L: But I don't know! R: OK. Write it down: "Linda doesn't know. She is a dummy. She hasn't the foggiest idea of how to fly. She can't teach anyone else. She's no good to anyone but herself." L: I helped my younger brother. R: Big deal-here you have a novel ability and you can't help the world. L: Why must I help the whole world? R: You must! It needs help! L: But I didn't create the need. The only way the world can be helped is to help itself. R: You have a special gift-you have been blessed and honored especially. You owe the world to give it away. L: Give it away? What good will that do? I'll just be depleted. And what will you have learned? R: Better to give us a bit of water than to let us die of thirst. L: But I become thirsty. R: Then you'll be just like us. Ha, Ha, Ha! L: Why so happy? R: Triumphant. Rejoice for we have defeated you! We have won! We have won! L: But what have you won? R: Status quo. We like where we are. Don't shake us up. We have enough problems without have to deal with this kind of idealistic nonsense. Intriguing, yes, but practical? No, good to laugh at, to ridicule. Keep it down, it's dangerous. The unknown will upset us. We can't afford to be upset any more than we are. Life is too precarious as it is. Unless you can offer a life raft to cling to, we want no part of you and your harebrained schemes. L: Life is scary. R: Damn right. Why, we could tell you stories... L: That would only serve to cover up the issue. Please, let's not play the game of smoke screen or fake-it. R: Facades are necessary to hide behind. They give some protection against being overwhelmed by forces too great for any single individual. We need the handicaps, the tools, the quick and easy answers. It takes too much time away from the effort we must apply to maintain our stance in this risky society to spend on frivolities-like your idea of flying. We have to survive. We can't afford to take this other stuff seriously. We can't. L: I understand. But tell me this-how is it that I can? R: (Mumble.) L: Hi, Younger Brother. Younger Brother: Hi, Linda. L: How did you like flying with me? YB: It was great for a while and then I got tired. L: I tried to hold you up longer, but you're getting heavy! YB: Well, it's hard to do. L: For now, because you're just learning. It'll get easier. YB: Okay. L: Hi, kids. Kids: Hi Linda, come be at our level. L: What level is that? K: The level of having fun! L: Who are you? K: We are the young people in your life. L: You mean children? K: No, we're the Inner Children of the people you know. L: Cool. K: Can you really fly? L: Yup. K: Gee, that must be fun...maybe someday we can fly, too. L: Sure, why not? Hey, Younger Brother, would you like to tell them about your experience? YB: (He does.) ________________ NOTE The difference between the two groups was that the kids were gathering out of a childlike spontaneous curiosity while the reporters were demanding explanations. I don't like to be put on the spot by people who have no intention of trying out the "sport" or "game" of flying; who just analyze, criticize, complain and ask unanswerable questions. The kids know better. They seem to sense that, in the end, the hows and whys and wherefores of flight aren't something to understand just by talking about it. It's something you *do.* So, the best approach isn't to verbalize, it's to act. And Younger Brother is the perfect model for these kids; he's their own age. The flying may be short, slow and low, if need be, but that's okay because he's a beginner and not expected to play the "expert." Once the kids see that he can do it, flying won't be such a humungous challenge for them (as it is for the reporters). It's something to take gradually, one step into the air at a time. http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html (Dream Flights) o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The View from the Bridge March 2004 Jean Campbell o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Spain 1103 My heart goes out to those who have been torn away And to those who have to stay Bombed off their beloved ones on this day My mind wonders, whether this is the way That may lead to peace some day Whatever peace may be today My limbs feel weak, I have to say All my power low today No feet to walk, no hands to pray Just wait for these dark clouds to go away Ralf Penderak 3/11/04 Last night I attended a meeting which introduced the Nonviolent Peace Force www.nonviolentpeaceforce.org to a group of people meeting in the Unitarian Church in Norfolk, Virginia. As the meeting went on, I realized why dreams are so important to the peace movement. At the question and answer session after the speakers, someone asked the question of how to talk with people in our geographical area about Peace, when there are so many military people who live here and so many conservative Christians. The response in the room was a heaviness, a feeling that conflict resolution is hard, maybe impossible. When I said that one answer was the solution we had found on the World Dreams Peace Bridge, that of involving our dreams and working with children, it was as if the sun came out from behind the clouds in the room. People's faces lightened. They began to smile and look more hopeful. I think the reason for that is because we all know what it feels like to dream. And though dreaming may be a serious business, even a scary business at times, still in dreams anything can happen. Our dreaming self pulls out all the stops and says, "This is your life too!" When people asked to hear more about the Peace Train, they laughed to discover that children around the world were now sending trains to one another, adding on to trains, sending them back with love. When they heard that the Peace Train grew out of a dream, they smiled and nodded, and wanted to hear the whole story. After the meeting, several people came up to me to ask about how to get involved with the Peace Train. Fortunately, I was wearing my Children's Peace Train tee shirt, and I could just let them copy from my shirt www.worlddreamspeacebridge.org There was also a lot of amazement that the Peace Bridge was sending toys to children in Baghdad. Now, of course war and violence are grim business, and all of us feel at times as Ralf does in the poem above, written immediately after bombs killed over 200 people in the subways in Spain. Subways are trains too, and if this were a dream we might be talking about bombs going off in the unconscious. Yet where but on the Peace Bridge can we express these feelings? Where else but on the Peace Bridge can a man from Germany and another from Japan talk about the residual feelings from World War II? Where else can someone from Israel talk about his dream for people joining hands across the Jordan? And where can we turn our dreams toward waking actions? This month on the Peace Bridge, we have been able to send a second shipment of therapeutic toys to children in Baghdad's Season Arts School, and hope to be able to send packages soon to our friend Dr. Karzan Ali in Erbil in northern Iraq. Jeremy has written the text for a children's poster book about Peace Trains, which will be published in South Korea and used as a model for other, similar Peace Train books illustrated by children's Peace Train pictures. Nick has added to the Peace Training site at www.peacetraining.org where there will eventually be a history of peace trains, and suggestions for how to conduct a Peace Train Workshop. There is nothing wrong with dreaming...BIG. o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o Galactic Waves: Dreaming with the Trees Galactic Moon. White Spectral Wizard Year © Nick Cumbo o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o The Waves is a newsletter reporting on the explorations of the Sea Life community. Sea Life, the main web forum at Dreampeace, aims to bring together a circle of dreamers from around the globe, collaborating in mutual dreaming adventures, and 'dreaming with and for the earth itself' Link: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/sealife During the Galactic Moon, we participated in a 'Dreaming with the Trees' project. We learnt a way of hooking ourselves up to the energy web of the trees, to empower ourselves in flight during conscious dreaming travel, and explored ways in which we could slow the rapid deforestation around the world; asking our dreams for guidance as to how to assist the Tree of Life project, being run by the Life in Africa Foundation. Ever since I was a kid, I was taught that trees were central to our very existence upon the earth. At the very least trees need carbon dioxide, and we need fresh oxygen. A balanced relationship is essential for our future survival. There's no doubt that the continued logging of old-growth forests, has a negative impact on our environment. Meanwhile, the trees live peacefully, their roots nourishing the earth, and their leaves rustling in the wind, immersed in the natural harmony that surrounds. Perhaps the trees have something to teach us? The purpose of this project was to embrace the energy and wisdom of trees through our dreaming, and to promote greater respect for them and their protection. In discussion we shared spiritual practices involving the trees, and considered ways in which we could improve their environmental conditions. Vega shared an idea for making a "prayer tree", pointing us to some magical inspiration: http://www.soultospirit.com/earth/articles/shamanism/prayer_trees.asp Pasquale, the creator of our sister forum LD4ALL, followed up with some other interesting spiritual practices involving the trees: http://forum.ld4all.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ One is indeed hugging the tree or standing with your back to it with your hands touching. Just connect to the tree and feel the tree. Just talk to it in your mind, you will feel/see/know a response. Sometimes even see the guardian of the tree and communicate with it. Sometimes the tree will give you their name. Do it with a tree that attracts you, most likely it will have something to tell you. Another one is a cool meditation I have done, which is becoming a tree and feeling how it is to be a tree. This was very wonderful as it gave me an understanding about trees - they are all one tree energy and 'travel' by shifting awareness through different trees. It is not like they are bound to the place they happen to grow. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pasquale also shared a conscious dream in which she shapeshifted into a wolf-like creature, in search of dense forest, only to discover that wherever she went there were only a few trees and a lot of humans wandering around. "I simply cannot find a nice quiet piece of forest where there are no humans". On waking she realized that this was "probably all too true! Especially in Holland where there are not many forests and those which remain are quite small and have bicycle routes and walking paths all across them". I set out into dreaming with the intention of participating in a DaFuMu (big dream of good fortune) for the trees, and received an unexpected gift in return: ------------------------------------------------------------------ CONSCIOUS DREAM: FLIGHT OF THE TREES (Nick/Explora) I become conscious in my dream. I think I'm outside; I can't remember what it is I wanna do. The dream is still powering into play, and my dreambody begins to spin around and around. I suddenly feel that I should look within to find the smartest course of action. I focus all my attention on the heart; still spinning, and now with the intention to manifest a teacher of the higher self, from within, and into the external world. It works! As my spinning comes to a close, I see that a new man has appeared. He looks older and has reddish/orange hair. I decide to ask him what his name is. When I do, he replies with the word 'Tree'. At first, I am reminded of Pasquale's meditation about the trees all sharing the body, and assume that he is another representative of the flowing 'being' of the tree spirit. Then I realise that the message of his name is that we are doing the dreaming with the trees project right now, and that I wanted to try communicating with a tree. There are a number to choose from; so I go with whichever one feels right. I walk over to it, and at first try speaking with it using my voice, but that doesn't work all too well. I decide that I need to tune right into the energy of the tree, in order to speak with it. I wrap myself around it! As I do, I notice that 'Jesse' and another friend have appeared along with a shamanic drum of some sort. I get the feeling that it's not really Jesse and is actually my spirit guide; he just has that familiar energy which I recognise. I speak to them; asking what I can do to communicate with the trees. He laughs; the awesome rhythm of their drumming still in progress, and tells me to keep doing what I'm doing now. Soon enough, some success! The tree seems to be opening up, or more specifically I seem to be passing into the inner hull of the tree. It's empty, apart from a small single root at the center. This seems to be important. I notice that the root is cut off down near the base, for one reason or another. At some point, I remember asking the tree to show me what we could do to support the environment, and the center single root growing taller through the middle of the tree. Other inner parts of the tree rearrange themselves to form a cryptic message, which I can't quite understand at the time, and soon enough I am standing around again. Now, I decide that I will try and tune into the energy of another tree. I put both arms out, at 90 degrees to the hips, there in the air above and around me. As I do this, a screen begins to appear. The mind is silent, and soon the bubbly green writing of the screen seems to be telling me how many trees energy I'm linked into! 1,3,5, 10, … It's awesome! I can feel myself powering up, spreading myself amongst the mental network of the trees. It doesn't stop there! As the number grows; myself now connecting to this every larger web of energy and life; my friend Alana appears. She seems to want to talk to me, but as I begin to rise higher into the air, I know that this isn't really the right moment to talk. I'm torn between the options of staying to talk (so as not to appear rude), and this most incredible, magical moment of opportunity with the trees! I surge with the energy of the trees; gripping hold of my freedom, realising that in some cases a certain sense of detachment is necessary. I now know that my flight; is actually assisting Alana break free of attachment and find her higher purpose. At least 100 trees now span across the screen. I sense their presence with me. We are seekers of the infinite, and I am lifted into flight. The personal power and joy I now feel is immense. Streaming out into the sky, I see myself looking out across a city. I'm half wondering if this is Melbourne; the detail is so intense, every last element of every building can be seen. This scene is familiar, as though I witnessed it in earlier dream that night. I race across the sky, in absolute perfect control of my flight; my hands still out like wings, and my feet in a pin-drop position! Finally, I see something there far away in the horizon. It's a host of Asian dancers, doing a traditional dance. It's quite beautiful to see from above. Hovering above in the sky, I'm in an awfully playful mood. I begin to do this bow and dance routine in the sky above, before finally coming back to land next to one of the dancers. She must be about 30, and I jovially ask, "What are you guys doing?" I'm full of charm, and decide that since they're not really guys, I probably shouldn't really call them guys after all. The woman laughs at me; she seems surprised to find such a friendly visitor drop down from the sky! ------------------------------------------------------------------ One thing that especially interests me about bringing together a large community of dreamers, is our potential to dream for other communities involved in work for the benefit of our planet. This project was in part inspired by reading about the Tree of Life 4 Africa project, being run by the Life in Africa Foundation. http://lia4.com/7/trees/ The Tree of Life 4 Africa project is based in Uganda, East Africa, and aims to facilitate global mass participation in creating a rapid and meaningful change in the developmental direction of our planet, and the well-being of the people on it. For every $8 Tree of Life 4 Africa sold… $2 pays for a real tree, sustainably planted in Africa $2 empowers the global and African people who helped to create the sale $2 enables the African connections, thru which the global network will grow $2 impacts Africa communities with new forms of credit for participatory development. Having first met Christine Jordan, the founder of the Life in Africa Foundation through the World Dreams Peace Bridge, I decided to ask if she'd be interested in us joining a DaFuMu (dream of big good fortune) for the Tree of Life 4 Africa project. ------------------------------------------------------------------ TREE OF LIFE 4 AFRICA Hi Nick, My name is Christina Jordan, I am the Founder of the Life in Africa Foundation. I've just taken a look at your site and find it so very interesting; though I have to admit to you I don't know much at all about team dreaming. That said, over the course of developing the piece training network, when people have asked what they could do to help, my answer has typically been something along the lines of "pray" or "send all your positive energy." If I had an extra $10,000 right now I'm not sure what I would do with it. Part of the essence of this project is that it will create itself virtually from next to nothing. It's the way the concepts interlock and interact on the impact level that will make it run... getting that out of my head in words and an order that will help it to make sense to others is really THE challenge. One way to describe what I'm developing is as system to enable the African grassroots to have access to the fruits of the Internet in the form of development "goodies," such as alternative forms of development credit. Key to the system is the social collateral that the "glass-house" transparency of the Internet makes possible. Nick, I also find the Tree of Life concept inspiring, but there are other things that need to happen before it will get off the ground. Namely, Trees won't sell without the people to sell them. On Monday, I'm bringing in a new user group of 5 new African "piece builders" who are completely new to the Internet. They'll be doing what I hope is the final testing of agent training materials we'll be launching Africa wide in March. Then there's the Time4Africa campaign, which is designed to bridge the financial gap for potential agents to be able to undergo the training... There's also a coaching structure to put into place, and lots of technical fine-tuning to do at this point that I feel very unqualified to do. I think I see that it's possible to get the basics of the system I've been "seeing" for over 2 years finally "erected" between now and September. What I don't know is if I have the strength to do it! It daunts me, scares me. I feel too often as though I am buckling under the weight of it. I feel I need help, but don't know how to ask for it in the absence of words to describe the new paradigm emerging with every step I take. Inside of me it feels like a ball of loose threads spinning; my task is to catch them in and piece them together in the right order - this is very important - and then push them out into the world with words that can help others to see it. My sleeping dreams associated with this process have been lucid but few - In each I am a warrior figure. It's dreaming/seeing while awake that brings the conceptual images, and often leaves me feeling my sword is not (yet) sharp enough for the battle. A sWord is a word with an S. The S is the essence of the snake in the garden - the appeal that draws us into a new level of reality. What I need to be able to do to make these radically new socio-economic concepts fly, is describe them in a way that makes participation appealing across cultures. The order of things dictates addressing the lowest common denominator first, and so that's where I am now. Entering this last phase of testing with a new group of African newbies means making sure they get it, even if nobody else does right now. The main thrust of their training is about the nature and location of online opportunities and platforms for change - including but not limited to the piecetrain and what it will become. You ask about my organization - at this point it's an assistant, 8 in-house trainees, 2 remote testers and me. There's also a discussion group at http://click4africa.com, which might have members interested in Sea Life - you're welcome to post something there. Nick, I don't know at all if any of this helps you understand what you wanted to know, but the ramble has done me some good. Thanks enormously for your interest. .piece Christina Life in Africa http://piecetrain.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ By participating in a DaFuMu (big dream of good fortune) for this program, my hope was at the very least that we could help inspire a flow of positive spiritual energy to the project, and bring good luck its way. There is a Planetary Movement focusing on calendar change, changing to a 13 Moon 28 Day Calendar in order to reconnect to natural cycles that encourage peace and unity. "The Lakota Indians based their 13 Moon Calendar on the keya, or turtle since the turtle has 13 scales on it's back. Modern science has even discovered that dolphins keep time with 13 sets of 28 grooves along their teeth." http://www.tortuga.com/ My DaFuMu reminded me of the importance of each of us doing whatever we could to spread knowledge of the 13 Moon Calendar, and it's incredible potential for recreating a global culture built on the strong foundations of equality, harmony and love. I was given to understand, that I was one of a growing number of people whom others could ask, for exploring the applications of the 13 Moon Calendar, and gaining answers to their own questions about its use. In the eloquent words of a turtle (keeper of the way of 13 moons), who appeared to me in dreamtime only a few months earlier, "Turtle comes to teach the humans on Earth how to use their resources most effectively". Finally, Vega dropped in with the results of her own DaFuMu (big dream of good fortune) for the project: ------------------------------------------------------------------ In a country close to the equator, I'm digging furrows for potato-cultivation. It's a bit over midnight, the moon is almost full. When digging, I'm positioned under the earth, on some kind of underground scaffold with a layer of earth above me, so that I am somewhat balancing over the furrow - a deep shaft of about ten meters. Someone hands me a bag of horse manure mixed with straw, which I blend into the furrow. Since its rather dry, the sandy earth from the walls on the sides of the furrow sometimes collapse a bit into the furrow, but it doesn't seem to be a problem, I just clear the furrow again. I feel very drowsy, and repeatedly doze off, which worries me a bit since I realize I might fall in the shaft if I fall asleep. When dozing off, I have a dream within the dream: I wake up in a room, wondering where I am, trying to collect my senses. When I reach out my hand, I touch a rocking-chair, and conclude I must be in my cabin. Having no clear memory of having returned to the cabin, I still feel disoriented. I let it be at that, and step up, looking through the window. There are two rather tall, modern buildings, with a glassed passage between them in the air. In the middle of this path, there is a man with outstretched arms and intense, almost glaring eyes. I think of a scare-crow or The Fool in Crowleys tarot deck. What struck me when waking up was the parallels - since I was drowsing/dreaming, I kept shifting between the under- the-earth and the over-the-earth scene. Then when stepping on a bus to work this morning, it struck me that both scenes had a vehicle-like feeling - there were the potato-land with furrow/wall/furrow following each other, and the building-link-building-thing. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Realising Uganda's position right on the equator, and the similiarity between the concept of digging furrows for potato-cultivation, and Christine's work with the Life in Africa foundation, there was a feeling that this dream was offering guidance for the Tree of Life 4 Africa project. If this had been my dream, I wondered if it might also be offering a reflection of Christine's involvement with the project, and what she was trying to achieve. In any case it seemed to suggest, that while not everything might work out exactly as planned, things would sort themselves out in the end. Many thanks to the trees for making so many of our dreams possible! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Stay tuned next month for the results of some time-travelling adventures, in 'Dreaming Our Way to 2012'. We welcome new dreamers to join us in our adventures. Email: explora@dreamofpeace.net Forum: http://sealife.dreamofpeace.net/ Newsletter: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/thewaves/Email: explora@dreamofpeace.net Forum: http://sealife.dreamofpeace.net/ Newsletter: http://www.dreamofpeace.net/thewaves/ o|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|o +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS ** DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________ Message: 734-001 Subject: The Watcher dream_title: The Watcher dream_date: 02/13/04 dreamer_name: Nahu dream_text: I am let out of prison, as if on a special furlough or outpatient visit of sorts, and go to visit my brother. I can only remember smatterings of that visit. In the interim I have to return and when returning encounter a female in a grey room with a male, who seems to be either uninterested, or alienated from the female, and does not want to have sex with her, which she proffers to him. I encourage him to have sex, but he rejects it,and the female seems frustrated and seems to be going back to the prison where I am going. She gives them a pass and goes on, while I, suddenly baffled by her gesture, look for my own pass, which I cannot find. I dump my papers out of my wallet, but no pass. Suddenly an intelligent, female doctor comes out of somewhere, and says, "It's okay, (as if to protect me) I know him." And takes me upstairs to her office for a interview. "Where have you been, what happened?" She asks. But I am still at a loss to explain my apparent temporary amnesia. Suddenly surreal like, the dream flips and I find myself in a different setting. There is a house, a woman stands outside and suddenly overhead, two Darth Vader like aliens go floating over, but I feel no fear. That seems a predominant feeling,as though I have overecome something. Immediately after that a huge fish, a grouper with thick lips appears and floats over. I am aware distinctly that I am watching this whole scenario as if from a perspective somewhere due north of my body. dream_comments: The whole dream seems transformative, and uplifting. It is as if I have overcome something inside myside myself. I am elated by the sense of perspective, I feel I have discovered a new perspective (artform) to view the dream scene more lucidly. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 734-002 Subject: grandchild with golden chains dream_title: grandchild with golden chains dream_date: 18 february 2004 dreamer_name: chrissinkov@hotmail.com dream_text: grandchild when she was 6or 8 years old,she was happy that i gave her my jewelery,exactely my golden chains around her neck Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 734-003 Subject: Turtles dream_title: TURTLES dream_date: FEBUARY-2004 dreamer_name: LOST IN DREAMS dream_text: ME, MY BROTHER AND HIS GIRLFRIEND ( MY BEST FRIEND) WERE WALKING IN SOME KIND OF FORREST WE WERE LOST , AND THERE WERE BIG BIG TURTLES AROUND EVERYWHERE WE WERE SCARED OF THEM BUT I TOLD THEM.."LOOK I TOLD YA'LL THERE THEY GO" dream_comments: I HAVE HAD 2 DREAMS THAT CONTAIN BIG TURTLES . IT'S LIKE THEY ARE 0VERGROWN OR SOMETHING. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 734-004 Subject: Fight dream_title: FIGHT dream_date: 2/18/2004 dreamer_name: LOST IN DREAMS dream_text: ONE OF MY FRIENDS FROM THE CITY WAS FIGHTING ONE OF MY FRIENDS FROM A LITTLE TOWN, AND I GOT IN THE WAY AND GOT HIT, MY TOOTH FELL OUT AND I WAS TRYING TO GET IT FIXED. (?) THEN IT BROKE IN HALF. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 734-005 Subject: What does this Mean? dream_title: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ? dream_date: 2/18/04 dreamer_name: LOST IN DREAMS dream_text: I WAS AT MY DADS HOUSE SOAKING IN THE BATHTUB, FOR SOME REASON I WAS IN A HURRY AND I KEPT LOOKING AT THE TIME WAS 12:44 AM AND I GOT SCARED AND STARTED THINKING "I NEED TO GET OUT BEFORE SOMETHING GETS ME" SO I GOT OUT THE SHOWER AND I KEPT LOOKING IN THE MIRROR AND I DIDNT LIKE WHAT I SAW, (ME) FOR SOME REASON I RAN INTO THE HALL WAY AND TRIED TO RUN TO MY BROTHERS ROOM, I WAS THINKING HIM AND HIS GIRLFRIEND MY BEST FRIEND WERE IN THERE,BUT I FELL, AND I COULDNT TALK. WAS TRYING TO SCREAM FOR SOMEONE TO HELP ME BUT I COULDNT OPEN MY MOUTH. MY WHOLE BODY FELT NUMB. NOTHING WOULD COME OUT. I WAS TRYING TO YELL FOR MY MOMS BOYFRIEND TO HELP ME. WHILE I WAS TRYING TO YELL, I REALIZED SOMETHING WAS DRAGGING ME PULLING ME INTO THE BATHROOM AND I STILL COULDNT SCREAM. THEN THE DOOR SLAMMED SHUT BUT I DIDNT CLOSE IT. dream_comments: 1. I DONT LIVE OR SPEAK TO MY FATHER AT THE MOMENT. 2. MY MOMS BOYFRIEND WAS ASLEEP IN THE ROOM. 3. I COULD FEEL MYSELF TRYING TO SCREAM IN THE "REAL" BUT STILL NOTHING WOULD COME OUT. I REALLY DID FEEL NUMB , I ALSO FELT LIKE SOMETHING WAS ON TOP OF ME , LIKE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE WAS PULLING ME DOWN. WHEN I FINALLY WOKE UP I WAS SCREAMING AND I JUST RAN AND WENT TO LAY WITH MY LITTLE BROTHERS. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS WHEN I SLEEP IN THE LIVING ROOM ON THE COUCH. I HAVE DREAMS LIKE THAT, THAT I AM BEING PULLED DOWN OR PUSHED DOWN, AND I AM NEVER ABLE TO WAKE UP WHEN I WANT OR YELL WHEN I WANT. THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME DREAMS BUT THEY ARE ALIKE IN MANY WAYS. PLEASE HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 734-006 Subject: Thawing Out dream_title: Thawing Out dream_date: 2/19/04 dreamer_name: DreamGiver dream_text: A plane crashes near our house and some people come and tell us that we (my husband and I) need to come to the crash site and start exuming bodies. I freak out and tell them that I can't do that, that's too gross. But somehow they convince me. Next scene is I'm at the crash site and I'm just standing and observing them exuming whole bodies of people without any scratches or damages on their bodies being carried out of the debris from the crash site. I do not know the group of people who are helping exume the bodies but my husband is helping them. Then the group that is exuming the bodies wants to know if they can bring all the bodies to my house (must be because they know I own a large house???). I object to this because there are what looks to be about 30 dead looking bodies!! But the group tells me they don't know if they are dead because everyone feels frozen solid. I notice all the bodies are like cold, when you pick them up they are stiff as boards. ! So I don't object and allow them to bring the bodies back to my house. We place them all around the house. For some reason I know that not all the bodies are here, like some people might be missing some of their children and spouses. I don't know this but presume this in my dream. And then I think (in my dream) how sad all these people dieing and if any of these people were any of my family I would want them to take care of my body until family came and identified them. (I guess that's why I let them bring them to my house??!!). Next scene is that life goes on as normal. And there's dead people all over my inside my house..laid out all over. One in particular is a man that we place on our couch in a room in our house that we call the "vineyard". In my dream I set up chairs behind this couch and a leader comes and leads worship and there are people that I don't know except for one friend who is sitting next to me that I know. As soon as we are singing the "dead" ma! n on the couch starts to move and open his eyes. I notice his eyes are a complety dark. NO whites showing just a dark blue color (navy blue to be exact). And my friend next to me says, "oh look, he's waking up!!" and we all look, but continue on doing other things and singing and then the "dead" man looks like he's going back to sleep. So then after a couple of hours he wakes up. Eyes look normal and I start to question him. I ask, "do you remember anything?" He starts to tell me that he remembers being on a plane and it taking a dip and then the plane goes nose down and everyone is screaming and he remembers that he says that he's not going to live through this...that he's going to die... then he goes on to tell me that after that thought, he doesn't remember a thing. So then I start wondering if all these other people are not truly dead, but just unconscious like him. So I start going around the house and feeling for pulses on some of the bodies. But I don't feel anything. Next scene is all these "dead" bodies start coming alive. ! There are about 30 or so people. Next scene is we are all sitting in a circle and chatting with one another. Some time has passed obviously because everyone seems pretty content and like we all know each other pretty well. I start thinking that I've got to get these people back to their homes but notice that they just have the clothes on their backs. So my husband and I buy them all new clothes and suitcases. And then one of the ladies in the group asks me, "where's my daughter...she was on the plane with me?" and I say, "I'm not sure (thinking ... I don't want to tell her the truth...like maybe she got sucked out of the plane or when the plane takes the nose dive it probably started to break apart and some people just didn't survive that) and I tell her that I didn't find her daughter there. I was expecting the lady to get really upset but she gets this really far off look and says just, "Oh..." then another person inquires about their husband, and I give them the same answer that I gave this other woman. And then another lady asks about her son...and I give her the same reply as I gave to the others. And their responses are all about the same. I then begin to think that we need to get these people back to their homes and I'm sad to see them go. But they are all well?? And peaceful and look happy. So my husband and I order a school bus to take them all back home. All the people load up on the bus and we can see them all and we are sad to see them go. And then I wake up!! dream_comments: I don't know who the people are that come to our house to ask us to assist them in exuming the bodies from the wreckage. There are 3 of them I think. One for sure. They look like paramedics because of what looks like a uniform that they are wearing. I don't recognize any of the people from the wreckage. Although now that I think about it. The man on the couch resembles a friend of mines brother?? The group that meets in our home when we gather to sing come in and seem to be not bothered by all the bodies laying around...like its a normal occurence in our household or something??!!! But I only know one of the persons. She goes to my church and is an older lady that I respect and love. I actually have a room in my house presently that I named the vineyard. I gave it this name because I spend alot of time praying here and worshipping the Lord. The name comes from The Bible, John 15. It's my "abiding" room! I would like feedback on this dream from El! ectric Dreams and to publish my dream on the Electric Dreams website. Thank you. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 734-007 Subject: Mom and I in a sage fight dream_title: Mom and I in a sage fight dream_date: 2/21/04 dreamer_name: tricia dream_text: I was standing in a kitchen that was unfamiliar to me. My mom, whom hasn't talked to me in a month, tossed sage spices on me and in my face. I ran out of the house and jumped into a car, that was unfamiliar to me, with my husband. Then I woke up. dream_comments: What is sage about in a dream? Why was my mother tossing sage on me? Why was the kitchen and the car unfamiliar? Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 735-001 Subject: Black pool of nothing in my bed dream_title: Nightmare - Black Pool of Nothing In My Bed dream_date: 02/22/04 dreamer_name: earthisis dream_text: Every night for the last 5 years I have dreamed the same dream. I would like this to end. I wake up screaming 2 hours after I go to bed. The only thing that I remember is that there is something else in the bed with me. I categorize it as a "black pool (blob)" and I wake up screaming and jump out of bed right through my bedroom door into the hallway. I wish I could have more to give as it seems I am blocked pass this point. It is always the same dream. dream_comments: What does this all mean, especially when it the same dream. No changes whatsoever. Comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 735-002 Subject: Alone in the dark dream_title: ALone in the dark dream_date: 02/20/04 dreamer_name: Alisha dream_text: I was in my boyfrineds bed laying in the dark when I woke up and heard voices and laughing in the living toom, I couldn't see who it was bu tI knew it was my boyfriend and his family, even though I had never met them before. I couldn't get out of bed or yell, I just softly called my mans name and was scared because I was really sick and coldn't get up. After I kept calling and calling for my man I noticed he was right there in the room with me, standing in the dark, watching me. I told him I knew he was there and he just kept quiet then finally he came to me in the bed and layed down with me and hugged and kissed me. dream_comments: My boyfriend does not want me to meet his family, I feel he is embarassed. I am scared in the dream. Comments: 736-001 ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 736-001 [735-002] Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO ALONE IN THE DARK! sounds like your boyfriend is nice and u feel safe with him. which according to what u sent me previously is exactly what u need right now. i don't think he's embarrassed of u i think he might b embarrassed of his family and doesn't want anyone to meet them. maybe he's afraid u won't approve of them rather than the other way around. or u might think less of him because of his family. he could b afraid of losing u to someone he may think is better for u. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 737-001 [ed.note: duplicate post] ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-001 Subject: Old man dream_title: old man dream_date: i dont rememer dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: well im at my elementary school when a spooky old man which is a robot keeps chasing me around the playround, so i have to hide behind this wall and when i look around me im surrounded by spooky old robots. dream_comments: ive had this dream twice ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-002 Subject: The Dragon in the Movie Theatre dream_title: The Dragon in the Movie Theater dream_date: Off and on since 5/98 dreamer_name: SKK717 dream_text: So I am 9 months pregnant sitting in a movie theater watching a fast paced horror movie, when suddenly I hear screaming from the lobby of the movie theater. I don't see it yet, but I hear loud breathing and know some hideous beast is waiting out there. Everybody runs screaming for the exits. I run towards the exit to the lobby. Right when I get to the door I go into labor, extreme active labor. I am paralyzed, in pain and lying helpless on the floor. I have an image of this "dragon" even though I still haven't seen it. And I can feel it come closer, and closer and closer. The air gets hot and heavy. This is when I wake up relieved, but frustrated. dream_comments: Why do I wake up before the scariest part and why are my feelings mixed? You can reach me at Kmaesbegonia@aol.com ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-003 Subject: Broken Heart dream_title: broken heart dream_date: 02/23/04 dreamer_name: cina dream_text: Agustin and Alan Haro were gonna meet this one girl by the stairs at mansfeld in the parent pick up area. But while they were gonna do thatme and Sami were upstairs in the main tech waiting for that juggalo Jake, you know the one with the green hair to get out of the bathroom and when he came out he turned into Anthony S. well n*E ways we both followed him to were he normally hangs out, with the ICP peoples then me and you were talking to Hai he was so so so so nice then he told us we should be apart of there crowd so we were going to start wearing there shirts and hangin with them. But me and you all of a sudden got into a big fight and i mean it was huge and so we went to go check up on Agustin and he wasnt there but what we found out is that Alan had been shot. Now we were really mad at eachother to the point that we were crying and we stopped and i asked you its cuz you have no true friends huh?, then you just nodded yes (i was sitting next to a big rock! ) then you told me GET USED TO THAT ROCK HITTING YOU ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HEAD!! then i was like FINE SAMANTHA THIS IS THE END OF OUR FRIENDSHIP!!! THEN I WENT CRYING INTO A DOCTORS OFFICE AND ASKed them if they had a counseler and they said no that thats only in schools then i told them all about what happend and i dunno how but i guess i recorded it all into a notebook so they told me to go with the guy that was in a horse carrage to go mail it off. and were it ended was in the horse carriage and it was raining...it was intense dream_comments: I want to know what it means. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-004 Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE SAGE FIGHT DREAM it was cute! well this dream is simple some people say the kitchen is the heart of the home others say the living room. u were in an unfamiliar kitchen cuz your not used 2 being out of sorts or at odds with your mother. as for the sage. sage is a cleansing herb native americans use it to spiritually clean the air of negative energy. in this case whatever u and your mom r currently fighting about apparently she blames u and or u blame yourself. she was throwing the sage on u to get rid of your negative energy and so u can b the person that she can talk to again. i thought it was very cute. it may have been upsetting to u but i'm sorry that was very cartoonish and very sweet. u got in the car cuz u were confused as to y your mom was blaming u when u blame her and or u were just freaked out by her odd behavior and came home to your husband for comfort. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-005 Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE FRIENDS FIGHTIN DREAM! the only thing this dream is telling u is to not stick your nose in other people's business otherwise you'll end up getting hurt. some people need to be left alone 2 fight their own battles. and the lil town and the big city could mean that lil problems turn into big ones when others get involved. as much as u would like to solve other people's problems for them sometimes it's best if they figure things out on their own. i was once hired to babysit 3 girls not because they couldn't look after themselves but as the mom told me so i could be there to stop the fights. but because my own dad was always trying to stop me and my sister from fighting i knew what she was asking of me was the wrong thing to do. i spent the next few years looking after those girls and because i wouldn't break up the fights they eventually learned how to settle things on their own without a third party. the fights became less frequent and if the younger was fighting with the older sister the middle sister would try to break it up cuz she knew i wouldn't. normally she would just join in the fight and not stop anything. the fighting became a lot less frequent and they learned to talk things out rather than acting out. all 3 girls get along a lot better with each other and have greater communication between them. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-006 Subject: Re: RESONE TO THE OLD MAN AND THE ROBOTS greetings and palpatations 2 the dark goddess in the dream u r in a social situation and by a learning institution. the ole man is a euphenism for "father". i think that u feel that your being attacked for being u and not conforming to them and their standards and ways. the fact that this is an elementary school represents that u feel this attitute is childish. the robots represent people who r fake, artificial, not really themselves. i was reading a book where it said something along the lines of: a woman of character automatically has enemies. i personally think that conformity is anti-god. we have all these planets, galaxies, people, culture , languages. if god actually believed in any one way or any one right way of doing things we would not live in a place that is multi faceted and multi-dimensional. i was telling a friend of mine who insisted on fasting and giving up this and giving up that-that the universe is about expansion not limitations. so remember u can't be anybody else other than who u r and that's exactly the person u r supposed to and no god or goddess could ask anything more of u. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 738-007 Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE GOLD GRANDCHILD CHAINS PERSON! the gold chains r more spiritual than they r physical. we very often have invisible ties to each other. in this dream u wanted only the best for this child and u gave them your best. there's magnetic energy fields, aura's and such. if u ever saw a couple getting closer and closer together u will notice that they start to become psychically in tune with each other. look alike, finish each other's sentences, know what the other is thinking, calling for each other only minutes apart. i'm sure u hear we have an astral cord and once it's snapped we cease to live. there have been cases of people being physically ill with no known physical cause. some people r spiritually attacked more often than not people shut down or attack themselves without realizing. if u don't believe me there's this book called: SUBTLE ENERGY- by dr. william collinge. he talks about overlapping energy fields and such. but this is a good positive dream very special. and very sweet. u were overlapping your energy field with the childs cuz u wanted them to be happy and to let this child know how much u care. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 739-001 Subject: Death in a garbage bag dream_title: Death in a garbage bag dream_date: February,25 dreamer_name: Ruby dream_text: I came upon a dead man. I don't know whether I killed him or not. But I stuffed him into a garbage bag and threw his body into a dumpster. I kept telling myself that I should tell someone, but I couldn't. So I don't know if I was protecting myself or someone else. dream_comments: What does or could this mean? ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 740-001 Subject: Re: RESONSE TO THE GARGAGE BAG DEATH i'm thinking this is a former friend or x boyfriend and u didn't recognize him because he changed too much on the inside and maybe isn't the same person as he was when u first met. i think u got rid of this person or dumped him and u don't know how much damage u did to him by doing this or if u did any damage at all. i think u were with this person for all the right reasons and left for the right reasons but still feel quilty about it. and u wanna know how he's doing and if he's ok. u can inquire without intruding if u know his friends co-workers and or former roomates. just ask and leave it at that. no reason to go back u obviously felt it was time too move on. and maybe focus more on your own problems instead. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 741-001 Subject: Re: PART II OF DEATH IN A GARBAGE BAG so i didn't think of this till i was on the bus and i thought what if she is protecting someone and if that's the case u probably knew someone who was dating this really nice guy and she treated him like dirt or did something behind his back he wouldn't have liked. and u probably liked this guy and thought of him as a friend and u didn't want him to get hurt. and now your thinking if only u said or did something, or something more than what u did, or should u have gotten involved in what was going on between this couple in the 1st place and now u wanna know how he's doing. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 742-001 Subject: confused dream_title: confused dream_date: 3-8-04 dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: My dream was about my boyfriend and I talking and then all of a sudden there was another gril holding his hand in the oppisite side of me dream_comments: what is that really tring to tell me? ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 743-001 Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO CONFUSED SOUNDS TO ME LIKE U FEEL HE'S SAYING ONE THING BUT MEANING ANOTHER. MAYBE HE TELLS U HE WANTS TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH U BUT REALLY HE'S CHECKING OUT HIS OPTIONS WHILE GOING OUT WITH YOU. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 743-002 Subject: Tom Still Doesn't Want His Secret Told? I am at work, only it didn't look the same, and there was a mix of co-workers and family and friends there. My husband was there and it seemed we were not actually working, more like getting a hall ready for some event. I was trying to explain something to the sister of my husband's best-friend - only it didn't look like her, she was much older. For some reason, she thought that her brother had an ulcer or something, and I was about to explain that she was mistaken, that wasn't it... he was being moved or was in the hospital because he has cancer. Just as I was about to say that, our friend - her brother, walked up and without actually saying it, let me know that I was not to tell her the truth. I don't even know if she was even aware of him there. It was like he and I locked eyes and everything else went away... we communicated without words. I glared at him because he didn't want me to tell and I thought she should know.... "why bother her?" I heard in my head. I was beginning to argue with him when my dog woke me up. **************************Background**************************** This is the first time I have evered dreamed about someone who has passed away...2/17/04 Tom, my husband's friend, died of base-of-tongue cancer and the end was actually quite gruesome (although in the dream, Tom appeared normal and healthy). Tom was only 45 and had never used any type of tobacco product. When he was first diagnosed, he didn't want my husband to tell his family about it. Tom had lost a lot of weight and was not speaking clearly. He'd waited much too long to go to the doctor, and only finally gave in and went because I threatened to call his ex-wife to get his sister's phone number. My husband tried to honor Tom's wishes, but it was awfully hard for him to skate the issue when talking to them and I thought that they should now... so I told his sister. Of course, as the cancer progressed, Tom was glad to have his family around him and did not seem to hold anything against me for telling them. I have never once felt guilty about telling them. It was the right thing to do and I stand by that. So why would I dream something like this now? He's been dead 3 wks and I am excutrix for his estate. I usually don't remember dreams much at all, and this one is very vivid and out of the ordinary for me. I'm pretty puzzled by it. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 744-001 Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO UNCLE TOM'S SECRET ILLNESS THIS WOMAN APPEARED OLDER 2 U B-CUZ SHE KNOWS SOMETHINGS WRONG WITH THIS TOM PERSON AND SHE KNOWS HE'S KEEPING IT A SECRET. SHE APPEARS OLDER CUZ PEOPLE AGE FASTER WHEN THEY R WORRIED OR STRESSED OUT. DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE TOM CARES ENOUGH ABOUT HIMSELF TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF. HE PROBABLY THINKS IT'S MORE MINOR THAN IT REALLY IS AND WOULD RATHER TAKE CARE OF IT PRIVATELY THAN TO WORRY ANYONE OVER HIS CONDITION. HE THINKS THAT IF U TELL HER IT WILL AGRAVATE HIS CONDITION AND MAKE THINGS MORE DIFFICULT. HE FEELS IT'S BAD ENOUGH TO SUFFER FROM HIS ILLNESS THAN TO HAVE TO WORRY SOMEONE ABOUT IT AS WELL. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 745-001 Subject: RE: RESPONSE TO UNCLE TOM'S SECRET ILLNESS Thank you for replying. But this all has already taken place.... so what I don't understand is why I'd dream this now? ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 746-001 Subject: RE: AS 2 Y YOUR DREAMING ABOUT UNCLE TOM NOW THAT HE GONE so let's say u don't feel guilty and let's say his spirit is adjusting 2 the spirit world and even though people gathered around and he seemed a lot more happy and comfortable in the end. what if he's looking down on the people he left b- hind and felt guilty cuz now all of these people r thinking if only we knew sooner if only we could have done more 4 him. maybe that's what he's resentful for. i read this autobiography of this guy who's father is an orthodox jew every morning his father would wash his face, feet, and hands. he didn't bother 2 ask y till years later. his father said: when u sleep at nite u leave your body and visit with the dead. when u wake in the morning u wash the dead off. this book is 7 tattoos by peter trachtenburg.(berg)? ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 746-002 Subject: escalator dream_title: escalator dream_date: dreamer_name: riSa dream_text: i was in a huge toy store. it had escalators leading to the upper floors. i bumped into a friend of my husband~s who asked for help with picking a toy for his nephew. as i followed him upwards on the escalator he suddenly seemed to be pulled downwards and started screaming. i realized then that the escalator had caught his legs and they had bnee cut off at the knees. i could see two huge bubbles of blood form and when he got to the top he sat on the ground screaming and crying. i ran after him and when i got to him i tired to comfort him as two men who seemed to work at the toy store assured me they were calling the paramedics. then suddenly i turn around from the two men to see my husbands friend standing and stomping his feet in anger at what had happened. his legs and feet were back only his shoes were all bloody. i couldn~t fathom what was going on and i felt extremely distressed. dream_comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 746-003 Subject: SEPTEMBER dream_title: ARE WE TRAPPED BY FATE? dream_date: SEPTEMBER dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: EVERY SEPTEMBER I HAVE A STRANGE DREAM. IN THAT DREAM, I AM OGING A LONG A HIGHWAY, DRIVING A BLUE TOYOTA THAT HAS NO STEERING WHEEL. THE LICENSE PLATE SITS ON THE DASHBOARD. ITS LETTERS ARE (2B 2B 20) IN THAT DREAM I HEAR A SQUEAL OF BRAKES AND SEE MYSELF SKIDDING ON A SLICK ROAD STRAIGHT INTO A BRIGHT YELLOW STOP SIGN. IN THAT DREAM THE LEAVES ON THE TREES ALONG SIDE THE ROAD ARE GOLD AND ORANGE, AND FALLING ALL AROUND ME, ITS RAINING. I HAVE HAD THE DREAM SOMETIME IN SPETEMBER FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS dream_comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 746-004 Subject: paradise dream_title: paradise dream_date: march 10 2004 dreamer_name: stac dream_text: i had a dream that i was on an island and there was a bunch of men and woman on the island and people would have a apple and a snake each and on male and female would put there snakes on the table and the male and female would go in the pool and if one snake killed the other the male and female were not ment to be together. me and the guy that i picked were ment to be to gether. also the male that was picked for me is my boyfriends close friend that he grew up with. there was also alot of lust between the two of us in the dream. dream_comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 746-005 Subject: my mother in law dream_title: my mother in law dream_date: dreamer_name: anonymous dream_text: Dreamed that my mother in law gave me a kiss and I was very shocked that she loved me when she never did. there were children and pastries dream_comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 746-006 Subject: strange dream_title: strange dream_date: 11/03/2004 dreamer_name: C.J dream_text: i had a dream id been swimming and come home to my boyfriend we argued about the fact i think he has been cheating on me...then afterwards i go upstairs have a shower and i start bleeding uncontrolably like a period but a lot stronger and heavier more like a waterfall off blood coming out of me! dream_comments: can anybody help me to figure this dream out please as it did scare me quite alot! ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 747-001 Subject: world on fire dream_title: world on fire dream_date: 03/09/2004 dreamer_name: walley dream_text: i dream that there was two big balls of fire and i could see that the world was coming to the end of the world. dream_comments: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 747-002 Subject: Lost person and a pet dream_title: Lost person and a pet dream_date: March 7, 2004 dreamer_name: Maggie May dream_text: I was standing in the middle of a room. I don't know where this room is. Janet Leigh (actress) was sitting in a chair near the corner of the room, but not looking at me. Without speaking, she relayed to me that her daughter, Jamie Leigh Curtis, was missing. Again, without speaking, I offered to help find her. Next scene, I am in my living room at home and realize my new puppy was lost. Next scene, my daughter and I are standing on the front porch of my house. I look towards the corner of the yard to my left about 100 feet away and see my puppy, but he is full-grown now. I call to him and he sits down. End of dream. dream_comments: I never dream about famous people, so this was odd to me. My dreams generally have more detail, not jumping from one quick scene to another. I didn't have much feeling during the dream, but upon awakening, I felt distressed about not helping find Jamie Leigh Curtis as I had promised, and about losing my puppy because I should have been more careful with him. The dimension of my yard is the same as in real life. But my yard is torn up do to landscape work. In the dream, it was cleaned up and pretty. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 747-003 Subject: huge teeth dream_title: huge teeth dream_date: dreamer_name: worried dream_text: i was in court but i wasnt on trial. my boyfriend is an attorney i must have gone there with him coz he was there too. my teeth became so painful i ended up not being able to close my mouth coz they had overgrown so much. they fell out and i had my old teeth back again. dream_comments: i've been having these nightmares for a while. they worry me coz i feel like i'm not getting the msg thats why it keeps comin back.they all revolve around me not being able to close or clench my jaws, althou they are different scenarios. please send me an interpretation of my dream. my email is: 200414067@student.rau.ac.za ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 747-004 Subject: death dream_title: death dream_date: 09/02/2004 dreamer_name: jaquoline dream_text: I was walking down my ally next to my house and there were dead people on the floor with blood up the walls and all over the floor someone was chasing me with something in their hand then i fell over and woke up dream_comments: it freaked me out ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 748-001 Subject: Re: death DO U LIVE IN A BAD NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHAT???! YES, that is a weird and creepy dream. maybe u feel lately like u have to watch your back at work. ( a backstabber) or u feel like bad news is headed in your direction and it's gonna affect a lot more people than just u. like a layoff, an illness in the family, or someone moving away who's a family member. and u think the family isn't going to b as close. don't know too many variables on this one here. u could also have a person in your life who is always looking for an excuse to complain and criticize about something even if they have to make up a reason. that would b very unnerving. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 748-002 Subject: RE: death Death usually warns of change. As for your trauma, I would think that you are worried about a change that is taking place at this stage of your life. However, as you did not give any specifics as to your personal situation, I really can't confirm that. Israel Oren (James Ray Faddis) ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 748-003 Subject: Re: RESPONSE TO THE FIRE BALL END OF WORLD well i think u've been watching too much news on t.v. this could b left over feelings about 9/11. or u feel like there's too many things going on all at the same time so in a sense things r changing far more quickly and rapidly than u usually do. so in a sense it's the end of the way things r. and the start of a whole new world. ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 748-004 Subject: Re: SEPTEMBER- YOUR FATE IS IN YOUR HANDS MY DEAR!!!! have u kept any journals or diary's over the years? what do u mean trapped by fate? all u have to do is ask yourself what event triggered this dream. it seems like a warning of some sort. your out of control but in charge. if your driving the car is has something to do with u personally. did u feel like u made a wreck out of your life? what mistake or regret do u have from 10 yrs. ago that u still blame yourself for??? if the license plate is on the dashboard and the car is moving forward it means u though u were moving ahead of the situation and u wanted to leave it behind but because the license is on the dashboard it's saying u haven't left anything behind it's still right in front of u and if u don't learn from your mistakes u r doomed to repeat it such as the dream itself. because the car crashed without your volition it means u wanted someone or something to stop u from the path u r on. if your asking about fate this could have to do with relationships. personal, professional, a member of your immediate family. this thing about 2b 2b. sounds like the beginning of a wedding ceremony. 2b or not 2b. or a warning: this is 2b this is 2b. as for the 20 could be a date like 1920 or someone who was 20 years of age. ________________________________________________________________________ -------------------- END ISSUE ----------------- -===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===- =---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---= ELECTRIC DREAMS ACCESS INFORMATION =---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---= -===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===- Subscriptions: The Electric Dreams E-zine (issn 1089 4284) is *free* and distributed via email about once a month. 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