Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (1996). Nightmare Hotline - an Interview with Anthony Dubetz. Electric Dreams 3(9), www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues/ed3-9.htm (Oct, 1996)

Tony Dubetz- Interview 10-1 -10-31 1996

Its just around the corner and you have no place to hide. It knows where you are, follows you relentlessly and reads your mind. eeeek! And then you wake up. It was a nightmare and now you really would like to talk to someone. Who to Call?

Anthony Dubetz, author of EASY DREAMS has a special phone line just for you! the Dream Hot line in Chicago (312) 589-2471 has been helping those puzzled by dreams for several years.

"the Main thing is what your think about your dream", he says, " That is, what you must eliminate the next day." Overused parts of the personality leave other parts neglected. "Maybe your dream is actually telling you that you've reached a burn-out level in your personality. the dream might be getting a little scarier every day - it may be shouting at you."

Interview conducted via mail...

RCW: When people call up the Hot-Line, what can they expect?

TD: If they ask for an opinion about a dream, I would offer one as if the dream were my own. (such as) "The dream you introduced the hot-line interview with tells me to avoid trapping myself or others."

RCW: Freudian dream interpretation is about the reduction of neurosis. Jung's work is about wholeness and healing. Ullman's techniques lead to insight and empowerment. How would you characterize your process?

TD: Learning to share the cosmos with dreams.

RCW: In classical therapy there is often nothing said about the dream, the client is just allowed or encouraged to free associate. When I talk with psychics, they tell me *all* the meaning in the dream.

Where does your process fall in this scale and what do you feel the teacher's role is in empowering the dreamer to find his or her own meanings.

TD: The teacher can recognize what the dreamer knows and encourage that knowledge, for it is empowerment, and there is a place 90 degrees to the left or right of the dream's location which is the place my process falls.

RCW: You talk about not getting identified with the dream image, can you say a little more about this?

TD: Like ghost images on our T.V. sets, dream images are not the substantial part of us but will o' the wisps. Why not invest in the substantial self which experiences the dream?

RCW: What experiences led you to your ideas and practice?

TD: Precognition and *deja vu*.

RCW: Our society has had both a general disregard and fear of dreams. Mom says "It's just a dream," and yet we are afraid of what the dream will reveal about us to a psychiatrist. do you see any changes in this attitude in the las couple of decades?

TD: I've seen the shedding of "just a dream" attitude and fear of dreams turn into respect for dreams.

harry Hunt and others have demonstrated that dreams are important, perhaps essential, to cognitive theory. Can the understanding of science be of value to dreamwork?

TD: Yes, it has given me encouragement when there was no other, especially science on missing matter. It helped me to understand existence as light, black and white, ever changing and no light, both co-eternities.

RCW: It has been about a hundred years now since Freud's Interpretation of Dreams; do you think dreamwork in the next century will be significantly different than the 20th Century?

TD: Yes, and due in part to your efforts as well as your mentors, inevitably.

Tony's text, _Easy Dreams- Making Nightmares Pay_, is a 41 page booklet fully explaining The Dream Hot-Line method and is available for $6.00 send to

Anthony Dubetz, P.O. Box 34934, Chicago IL 60634

You can call the hotline at (312) 589-2471 or email at:

(address to be announced)


Richard Wilkerson (Oct, 1996)