Wilkerson, R. & Herbert, J. (1995). John Herbert
and the Internet Group Dreamwork . Electric
Dreams 2(6), www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues/ed2-6.htm
By Richard Wilkerson and John Herbert
I had heard about the work John Herbert last year through the grassroots
dream grapevine, but hadn't been able to track him down on the Net. Finally,
he found me and I had a chance to go through two of his groups, one as
a commentator and the other using one of my dreams. I feel John's work,
both at the Seniornet on AOL and his many other projects in the last few
years, provide a core model and background support for the emerging communities
of concerned dreamers on the Net. The background support comes from his
research on CMC (computer mediated communications)vs Face-to-Face dream
groups and his findings suggesting that many aspects of dreamwork work
just as well with CMC and some aspects are even superior. The point here
is not to set up a competition between the two. John has a great deal of
experience with face-to-face groups and highly values them. What I see
as valuable in his project is the process of differentiating just what
*is* better mediated by CMC and Face-to-Face and building on what we learn.
While I want to describe my experience with this kind of Net group dreamwork
and compare this to Face-to-Face and other Net dreamwork, my main goal
here (beyond giving John Herbert's work some exposure and attention) is
to stimulate our imaginations and inspire ever new forms of experimental
dreamsharing. But first a short history I asked John to provide for us:
From John Herbert:
Most of my professional life has been associated with aviation, but my
introduction to group dream work started with an Edgar Cayce group in New
York in the 1960's. I later attended one term at the C.G.Jung Institute
in Zurich, which started my serious work with dreams. My desire to learn
more about dreams and research led me to back to school, first at San Francisco
State Univ. (M.A.Psychology, 1970) and recently to a Doctoral program in
Psychology at Saybrook Institute (San Francisco), where I was introduced
to Montague Ullman's "If it were my dream" approach by Stanley
Krippner, who has been my major mentor. Progressively, I became more active
in face-to-face group dreamwork; I have studied under Ullman and have moderated
FTF groups for several years.
I became aware, however, of the changing modes of communication available
to the electronic community and I wanted to find out if it might be possible
to conduct group dream work on electronic BBSs. As part of the research
for my dissertation, I have done test groups on the Internet (alt.dreams),
Delphi, Compuserve, the WELL, and America OnLine. Group Dreamwork is currently
being conducted on AOL in the Seniornet sector\Communities Message area\Group
Dream Work topic. I have over 3500 of my own dreams stored in electronic
format, and I have been able to use them for research, documenting how
dream metaphors have commented on various life situations. J.H.
Reflections on the Seniornet Dreamgroup & Ideas - by Richard Wilkerson
I enjoyed both of the groups I participated in and as I mentioned I was
a commentator in one and a dream sharer in the other. The process is much
like alt.dreams, only much more intimate. If you are not familiar with
the alt.dreams newsgroup, you can subscribe to that via Usenet. In John's
version there were about 5 participants in each group who signed up anonymously
and the group lasted under two weeks. The group was guided through the
steps of the process by a mediator who chose the dream from the list of
submissions and the process generally ran as follows: After the dream was
posted, the participants were asked for clarifications only. The dreamer
responded, but didn't have too. The next phase began with the participants
being encouraged to comment in the "If this were my dream" style
originated by Montague Ullman, and made popular and developed by Stanley
Krippner, Jeremy Taylor and others. The dreamer chose to limit the replies,
but was encouraged to the comments as he or she wished. End group.
There was a subtle but delightful shift that occurred in me emotionally
that had to do with the reflective process, the give and take, question
and answer. I often feel this in Face-to-Face (FtF) groups too, but there
is a difference in that I get a chance to reflect longer before I respond
in the CMC groups. Which is the better mediator of skills and insight over
time? There is something about the CMC experience that is "light"
and ephemeral. I've had to look up responses to my dreams over and over,
as I keep forgetting things I wanted to remember. With FtF groups, things
stick a little better for me personally. But this may indicate that CMC
may have and inherent, excellent self regulation valve. One of the mutual
projects John and I share with dreams as well as internet is the valuing
of self-empowerment, and the lightness of the medium allows for more personal
self regulation.
What this experience has led me to is the possibility for using Electric
Dreams as an experimental ground for miniature groups that meet and organize
on Electric Dreams and then go off to conduct a more private and personal
experiments and then return to the EDreams community with a report or summary
and suggestions for new mini-groups. We are trying one of those now and
will have some results for you next issue. If you are interested in being
in one of these groups or would like to suggest and mediate your own, feel
free to send in a request. We are trying a Round Robin approach now, but
I can think of many interesting variations. What, for example, would happen
if we, as a small group, began visiting other realms and domains on internet?
We could conduct a group on alt.dream, going about our process, but allowing
other in too. We could sign up on mail list, like Imagination or Gestalt,
and do a small workshop with them. Perhaps we have a Telnet expert who
could help link us together at a specific time, or use the IRC on internet
for a real time meeting. Send me some ideas and requests. Lets play. -Richard
For more on John Herbert's Seniornet group or other work, send your email
to him at <Jherbert@aol.com>
Richard Wilkerson